a little depressed - honest opinion please

I’m probably one of the smallest guys here. My size has prevented me from going after girls and I am now 23 without ever having a girlfriend. Whenever I feel like I have a chance with a girl, I end up getting too worried that I won’t be able to satisfy her and that makes me very depressed and prevents me from going any further with her. It would be easier to just forget about girls and not constantly have the small hope that I’ll be able to get one. Since a lot of you guys have had relationships, and I can’t ask my friends about this obviously, my question is, do you think a girl could with satisfied with the way I am, or is that just biologically impossible? Should I just completely forget about girls for like 5 years, PE as hard as I can, and maybe become slightly average or below average before even letting myself think about girls again? If I loved a girl, I think I could forgive her for a lot of her faults, but since this is more of a mechanical issue, I’m not sure how to put it into perspective.

Thanks.

First of all, you can satisfy a girl without a penis. Use your mouth and hands.

Second, love is not to satisfy a woman. You make love because you want to.
It’s not a sports. You don’t have to win. You don’t have to prove nothing. (When I’m intimate with my girlfriend there are times in which she cames before me, and times in which she doesn’t came at all. This is quite natural for woman. They could like the loving act even without coming. It’s not only the orgasm, but the entire context).

Third, loving isn’t only a mechanical thing. It’s more complex. You have to prove it to understand. Once a very wise man said that the most important organ for a man is the ear, not the penis. The ability of “listening” your partern.

4th, a lot of man with small penis makes love great. Just because they have a little penis the are more careful about the loving act, and that is the key to make happy a woman.

5th, not quite sure that PE works on every body.

Enjoy your life.

Have a look at the figures from all the surveys. You are not below average. There are lots of married guys, guys with multiple girlfriends, guys that are having three-somes right now with two hot blondes etc etc. that have dicks just as big as yours. Lots and lots.

My initial take on this is you are talking more about sexual experience than about love and romance. Of course I could be wrong, I tend to see the sexual side to most things first, especially for young guys. But if you are talking Love and/or Romance. Scarsick’s advice is very good. When you find the right woman, the size of your dick is of little importance.

Also Casper makes some good points. You’ve got more than enough equipment to satisfy a woman. If you feel the need to beef that dick up for yourself, that’s another story. You might want to look into pumping.

But don’t put your sex-life on hold for five years just to do PE. No reason you can’t multitask.

Mate, you might find this hard to relate to, but I love men, and like playing with big dicks; but all the guys I have wanted a relationship with had average or smaller dicks. I would never base a relationship decision on dick size. I think most sensible women would look at it the same way.

Thunders Place can fuck up your mind. You see all this huge cocks that everyone has on the member pics thread. They are doing PE like crazy and just like you ( I guess) it is very hard to understand why.

My way of thinking is that if they are no satisfied with their size, what do they think of my penis. But you have to realize that this is a forum with over 135000 members and very very few choose to show their pics or stats. I take that as a proof that most of the guys and lurkers here are just like you and me: Very average.

So don`t compare yourself to anyone’s stats, pics or gains because it will only make you more stressed. I can guarantee that you can satisfy a woman with no problem it is only your own way of seeing yourself that causes problems not your ability. I can tell you that my girlfriend cried for real this morning after 30 minutes of sex and I am average sized. It all depends on what you do with your penis and also how tight your woman is.

If my girlfriend would complain about my penis being to small I would kick her out of the house. If you really like someone then there is no reason to tell your partner that his penis is to small or her tits are to small, you just don`t let things like that bother you if you love someone.

I will make one last statement: Be happy that you found Thunders and started PE. There are billions of men with your size that will never be able to do something about it because they don`t know our little secret here on Thunders.

Sorry

Penis size does not guarantee getting laid.
How many times I have had sex = 0 times…

One of the problems is that rejection was reinforced constantly, by my parents and family. Except for my grandpa and grandma(she passed away,it will be 5 years ago on the 8th of Nov).

pretty much afraid of being rejected.
If I tried it would cripple my self confidence/Self Esteem what ever is left of it.

superchill,

Man, just don´t think about quitting PE. You may need 10 years to reach your goal, but you´ll surely achieve your goal.

Now, about penis sizes, most women I´ve been with don´t care about that. They just want feel we care about her and that we respect her. Penis size MAY BE is ALSO important. I´ll tell you two things, one about a chick and ther other about a guy:

1 - I have a friend, a chick, she´s a hot blond, that must have screw with hundreds of guys. Everytime she speaks about sex, she always recalls with sadness one of her boyfriends, Andrew. She says sex with him was incredible. She had countless orgasms with him. Unfortunely, according to ther, he broke up with her because of another gal. Well, my friend, the guy was 5” BPEL max. She keeps telling we was small, but it was something unreal having sex with him. Why? Because he acted like a MAN. He was dominant, confident and had a good sense of humor.

She is dating a guy at the moment that she loves, but she tells it´s a huge disappointment in the sexual department. And she says he´s really big. He can´t last more than 5 minutes, he can´t make her cum most of the times. Yeah, a tall guy, blue eyes, bodybuilding, has many chicks around him, etc. And yet is almost a zero in sex, even having a big unit.

2 - The other story I want to tell you is about a guy. ME! :) I consider myself as being average. In spite of being 6.9” BPEL, I´m only 6.3” NBPEL. At the moment I´m dating a gal that squirts a lot with me, to the point she gets embarassed. Why, because she never squirted before, least of all with her previous partner, her ex-husband. She says he is really big, 8” NBPEL or more. And, of course, he´s should be way thicker than me (I´m only 4.8”).

The result: He could only make her come doing her oral…! And yes, he would last more than 15 minutes.

There´s a 1.3” difference between me and him and at least 1”-1.5” of girth (my guess), and man, look at the difference between a girl how could only come through oral and that has countless squirting orgasms with another guy.

Keep this post in mind, my friend. PE is already changing your life! ;) Keep the good work!

Hey superchill, chill out!!!

No girl will stay with you because of your unit. If she does, dump her. She’s simply not worth.

It’s important to give pleasure, yes, but either important is to receive too! Don’t forget yourself, you are a key element there too.

scarsick wrote all I’d advise you. Good points!

I ´m just like you,I´m nineteen and I have never had girlfriend either and I used to think the same way: “All is about dick”.. Naturally small guys like us tend to think that way because of paradigms, I would like to have a big dick, but I don´t have it (we can fix that), however I won´t let the situation get me into depression.
Girls are more sensitive than horny.. Well some of them. Who cares, the fact here is that a valuable girl won´t base her happiness with you on your dick size,but on the way you are with her like lemos said.

My friend that´s the truth.
Now let´s Pe man.

It’s not so much a mechanical issue with girls, Superchill. I know guys with massive dicks who were not able to satisfy their girlfriends because they were very flat and unexpressive emotionally. They didn’t know how to show love. I also know guys who were very small and had very satisfied girlfriends. Personality and emotional openness and receptiveness really count.

Technically, you don’t even need a penis to satisfy a woman. Fingers and tongue can do the job just fine—maybe better. Sure, women if asked say they prefer dicks that are around 6.5 - 7”, but the same women admit that even a big dick is a distant second in their minds to good oral sex skills.

So, yes, I think it is not only possible but actually very likely that you could satisfy a woman and be a great lover for her if you put your mind and body to the task.

What might work against you, however, is lack of practice. The longer you stay out of the sex game, the more rusty your skills become. Sex isn’t hard by any stretch but some practice definitely helps.

Also realize that women vary enormously in their sexual appetites and the importance that they give to sexuality. For many women, sex is something they basically do for their men and it doesn’t mean much to them. That might be disappointing to hear, but I suspect 1/3 to 1/2 of all women fall into this category—many more as they get older.

Certainly, those women are not likely to refuse you on the grounds of your penis size. They may actually prefer that you have a small penis.

On top of that, some women (perhaps a minority, but still a sizable number) actually like small dicks. Some like to dominate men, but others just dig the look and feel of a smaller unit. It sure makes oral and anal sex a lot easier.

So, rest assured that you are not a freak! You might be toward the low end of the size spectrum, but we all have to be somewhere. I don’t doubt that you’re at the high end of the spectrum in some other dimension of life. We’re all individuals, and we’re all entitled to enjoy ourselves.

My recommendation is to go after a woman you are genuinely attracted to, and leave it up to her to decide whether she likes you back and whether you dick is a problem for her. If you’re a good person in other ways and take the trouble to make yourself clean and attractive, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised at how successful you are likely to be.

Believe it or not, everyone, and I mean everyone, has their fair batch of insecurities. I’m 20 years old and am at 7.1 BPEL, yet I never had a girlfriend. Why? Because a series of rejections I have had during my adolescent years has pretty much destroyed any confidence I had when it came to approaching women. In my case, penis size wasn’t a factor (I was around 6 in. When I was a teenager).

Dick size means nothing if you don’t know how to use it.

superchill,
I have been below average all my life. I am now 48 years old. I have never let that stop me. I did bring in other aspects of sex beyond just penile penetration. I may be lucky, but I have never had any complaints. Some women I have broke up with for various reasons have generally tried to get back with me. I can guarantee it was not because of my dick size.

My recommendation is to not wait another minute to start talking to, dating, making out, having sex, etc with what ever woman you are attracted to. Start right now. Time is wasting and will never come back.

You will not know if you will please women until you start trying to do just that.

Sex is just as much a mind thing with women as it is the physical act. To most of them it is about the relationship they have with you as a man. Make them feel good about themselves, build the experience, and use all your talents. As long as you unit generally works you can please most women out there.

Get out there and start enjoying the company of the women you find interesting.

Take care and happy gains,

I am currently at 18cms bone pressed length and 13 cms on girth. So I fucked this girl last month.

2 weels ago, a friend of mine fucked the same girl, he is 15 cms bone pressed length and 9 cms erect girth.

Yesterday I talkerd with the girl and she honestly told me that she enyoyed much more with him because of his sexual skills.

Hey S-Chill.

Your goals are pretty much my current stats and to be honest I feel exactly how you do about the ladies. I am 28 and it has severely limited my life experience so I have to say, no matter what your size is do not let the psychological issues get in the way of life and living it. You are 23 now so at best that leaves 60 odd years to have some fun, for sure work on what you have to make it better but just don’t forget to live.

Your size in not anywhere near as bad as your mind leads you to believe and there are plenty of girls out there who will ride it raw but how will you know if you don’t try.

Good Luck.