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Almost three months and no change.

Almost three months and no change.

Hello guys!

On Monday I will have 3 months in here and I still have no changes.

Here’s a summary of what I’ve done:

1st month:
- 5 minutes warm up.
- 1 set of 30 second stretches to each side.
- 30 dry jelqs with one hand at the beginning and increased to 60 as days passed.
- Sometimes 5 minutes warm down.

2nd month:
- 5 minutes warm up.
- 1 set of 30 second stretches to each side.
- 1 set of 10 second stretches to each side and increased as time passed to a set of 30 second stretches.
- 60 dry jelqs with one hand and increased them to 80.
- Sometimes 15-20 minutes edging.

3rd month:
- 5 minutes warm up.
- 2 set of 30 second stretches to each side.
- 120 wet jelqs with both hands except this week that I’m doing 150.
- 50 kegels after the second week.

I know I don’t have the most amazing routine but I wanted to get at least a solid 0.1” increase in any department in this three months time.

After this week I’m taking a week off and then I’ll restart again with the same routine as in the third month. I was thinking that I may add some A or V stretches to see how it goes but I’m not sure what I should change to see some gains.

I would like to know your thoughts.

Edit: I forgot to mention I do it 4x a week which is when I’m usually free and have the needed privacy.


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Start: BPEL: 6.5" NBPEL: 5.8" MSEG: 4.9"


Last edited by jon.carrax : 07-27-2017 at .

Hi Jon,

Your routine doesn’t look to bad mate.I would do some more stretches maybe

4 x 30 seecond stretches.You have great starting stats.Stick with it.I personally didn’t see any changes for 6 months.Apart from a few more veins from jelqing.


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Warm ups aren’t going to help with size. Just prevent injury. I wouldn’t expect any gains with your first 2 months routine. Maybe now that you’re closer to the Newbie Routine guidelines you’ll experience some. Most people start with 200jelqs from our standard newbie routine so not to be a dick but you’re behind the curve and you started out slow. Not that its a bad thing, just why you might not have experienced gains yet.


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Just keep experimenting til you find something that works.

I didn’t experience ANY gains for 9 months but you are still conditioning nice and safely. You will hit your grove just be patient.


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I’m gonna add a little more about my PIs.

I have to say that my PIs are very random, let me give you an example, I don’t have so hard morning woods and after stretching sometimes it’s hard for me to get an erection (I had to do the routine yesterday and I couldn’t end it because I couldn’t have an erection) but when I chat with my girl I can have erections without even touching myself.

@Deepwrath31 Yeah, I started slow because I wanted to avoid any possible injury and get used to jelqing and to stretching a little bit. I’m taking into consideration what you say. I know that everybody’s different but I was thinking in taking one or two weeks off after this week, I wonder if you find that recommendable.

@TheWizard I want to add more stretches since I’m mainly interested in length (Even when I know I don’t have a great girth either) but with what I just wrote about my PIs I want to know what you’d do.

@SoLong The good thing about PE is that it’s also training my patience and makes me work on my mindset.


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Start: BPEL: 6.5" NBPEL: 5.8" MSEG: 4.9"

Originally Posted by jon.carrax
I’m gonna add a little more about my PIs.

I have to say that my PIs are very random, let me give you an example, I don’t have so hard morning woods and after stretching sometimes it’s hard for me to get an erection (I had to do the routine yesterday and I couldn’t end it because I couldn’t have an erection) but when I chat with my girl I can have erections without even touching myself.

Oh that’s easy then: chat with your girl while doing PE :-)

Seriously: kegels, kegels, kegels. And edging, don’t forget to include edging.


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If I had four hands I’d chat my girl while doing PE. Sometimes I think about going back to porn but I have 10 months out of it and I’m kinda proud of that.

I’ve already added kegels but I don’t have enough time with them to see a real impact on EQ, I’ll stick with them because they supposedly also help with my duration in bed.


You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one.

Start: BPEL: 6.5" NBPEL: 5.8" MSEG: 4.9"

I’m going to add something very basic, but anyways : No matter the number of jelks or whatever, if you didn’t push your comfort zone at the end of a cession, you won’t get any improvement, and even worse, you might adapt the tissue to the effort and thus make it harder to gain next time. What must guide you is not the number of jelks per day and sessions per week, but the soreness of your tissues. If you start a session, your goal is not to quit until you got temporary results. For example if you stretch, you shouldn’t quit until your stretched penis is longer than what it is usually, and at least as long as in your previous session. Same for girth if you jelk. If you spend 15-30 minutes on an exercise and don’t get temporary results, I think you definitely need to correct the way you practice or try another one. m2c

Okay I’ll disagree with that. Soreness may be fine for muscles but not for your dick. You want the area to feel as if you used it, in a sense tired not sore.. As for trying to push it a bit during your workout; try doing it in the middle of your workout when you already are well warmed up. Pushing at the end when your tired invites injuries.

Originally Posted by qntrnar
I’m going to add something very basic, but anyways : No matter the number of jelks or whatever, if you didn’t push your comfort zone at the end of a cession, you won’t get any improvement, and even worse, you might adapt the tissue to the effort and thus make it harder to gain next time. What must guide you is not the number of jelks per day and sessions per week, but the soreness of your tissues. If you start a session, your goal is not to quit until you got temporary results. For example if you stretch, you shouldn’t quit until your stretched penis is longer than what it is usually, and at least as long as in your previous session. Same for girth if you jelk. If you spend 15-30 minutes on an exercise and don’t get temporary results, I think you definitely need to correct the way you practice or try another one. m2c

I see your point. I don’t usually measure after the sessions. After stretching my penis stretches more than in the beginning but I can’t tell you so much about the jelqs because after them I don’t try to get erections because it’s a little hard for me. I’m trying to be more aware about my jelqs.

Originally Posted by Jimmybob55
Okay I’ll disagree with that. Soreness may be fine for muscles but not for your dick. You want the area to feel as if you used it, in a sense tired not sore.. As for trying to push it a bit during your workout; try doing it in the middle of your workout when you already are well warmed up. Pushing at the end when your tired invites injuries.

I think he didn’t really mean soreness as in the muscles but he wanted to say tired. I get your point and you’re right, the penis is not a muscle, at least it’s not as in the rest of the body. I’ll take your advice and I’ll try to push a harder at the middle of the session, it sounds safer than doing it from the beginning.


You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one.

Start: BPEL: 6.5" NBPEL: 5.8" MSEG: 4.9"

Think; in the beginning you’re not too warm and pliable. Things break. At the end, things are already tired and strained and things break. Be safe.

Hi Jon.. It seems that one of the major PIs, EQ is way off at the moment. I suggest you do a light stretching routine. Try a set of 15 second holds on all sides.

Then when your EQ starts to improve that could lead to growth as said by sparkyx on his thread. Its all worth it to read all his threads as I did this since I’m also new to PE.

I did lost my EQ when starting and I was able to regain it when I did adjust my stretching routine. I am also doing a reverse kegels routine which could diminish EQ but based on my experience its all on the stretching that affects my EQ drop.

Happy PEing.

I’ve read everything here and there’s some good advice and some not so good. Never try to force gains. That’s how injuries happen. A body builder doesn’t start off benching 100kg, he gets there over time, so be patient, you will get there. Here is my 2 cents.

Your EQ is not that good, so I would ease up on the stretches until that improves. Stretching has a negative effect on EQ. Believe me, I’m experimenting with a stretch intensive routine and in the first week my EQ tanked. Your routine seems fine, but I would just switch to wet jelqs instead of dry. I get a better engorgement of my dick with wet jelqs than dry, and that’s what you want. For your dick to be nice and engorged even after your routine. Also, I would add a 20 minute edging program after your routine and before your warm down. Having that much blood there for that long is good for healing and helps cement minor gains that you might have made during your routine, especially if you are prone to turteling after you routine. So take your week off to get your EQ up and set your routine and be constant.
Hope this helps, and good luck.


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