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How big is too big?

It’s been quoted before, in this thread. Pretty sure it’s 7.5x5.5” for most purposes.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

13” length and 9” girth is definitely too big for women.


Starting stats:- Dec11th2008 7.2"bpelx6" meg.Mar23rd09 8.375"bpel x 6.125"meg. Mar10 8.4" bpelx6.125" meg.

Goal: 8"nbpel x 7" A one eyed monster by any standard :)

Originally Posted by kooljohn
13” length and 9” girth is definitely too big for women.

Thanks for your remark kooljohn, I think we’ll all agree on that, except maybe swaffel and his nowhere near big 10” girth baby monster, and the guy who’ll show up and say “don’t forget that someday a baby might get through that vagina”. :D (don’t be offended by that comment Wolf, i’m not especially targeting you)


BPEL: 6,8" MEG: 5,4" BPFSL: 7,2" (Started on August 2017)

1 month break in December

BPEL: 7,52" MEG: 5,55" (January 2018)

Well all three of the guys who are 7 inch girth or thereabouts who have commented here have said it’s not an issue. Small sample but I got to thinking about this baby head that keeps coming up. I looked around and did some research. Because that actually is testing the limits of what is possible.

The skeletal opening of the pelvis is about 15 inches girth. The pelvic musculature, rectum, and uterine walls limit the actual birth canal to about 12.5 inches girth, which is the girth of a baby’s head.

Most women’s vaginas cannot actually pass a baby’s head. 85% of women get a tear, and 65% of women require stitches.

In a study of vaginal and perineal tears during childbirth, the average tear is shown to be about 4 cm long, with the absolute longest tears being 8 cm long, but also rather rare. It looks like the 95% interval for tear length has a max at about 6 cm. So for a conservative estimate, let’s assume a 6 cm tear, which increases the girth of the vagina by 12 cm (6 cm for each side of the tear). So in theory, 95% of vaginal tears would not happen if the baby’s head size were 12 cm less (4.7 inches less).

That works out to a 7.8” girth - the size at which over 95% of women would not have any tears other than superficial skin stretching damage, and many would not even have that.

And that’s the conservative estimate. With the 4 cm average tear, plus the 15% of women who don’t even tear on the full 12.5” baby head, the “average scenario” would be that 65% of women would not tear on 9” girth.

Some more interesting thoughts. The vagina does not dilate with any birth hormones like the cervix, at least from my understanding and research (please correct me if I’m wrong). It just stretches out during stage two of childbirth as the baby passes through the birth canal over a period of 20 minutes to 2 hours. That’s it, it just stretches.

The 12 inch girth of a baby translates to about:
6 times as big as 5 inch girth
4 times as big as 6 inch girth
3 times as big as 7 inch girth
2 times as big as 8 inch girth

After looking into this deeper, I’m starting to think just about any woman could take 7 inches girth if she really wants it. Anatomically there’s nothing preventing it. She might need to learn how, and it might take 10 or 20 or 30 minutes and a lot of lube, but it should fit. It’s only one third the size of a baby. Maybe it would cause superficial skin damage for some, but in terms of actual tearing of the vagina or perineum, in terms of being physically unable to fit, it seems like nonsense to me now. Any healthy vagina should be able to fit 7 inch girth and probably 8 inch girth as well.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
Wasn’t sarcasm. I’m on the fence of whether to continue to gain past 5.5 EG, and insights from your size help a lot in that decision. I think most girls that turn a guy down because he’s too big could actually manage just fine if they knew he’d use a little tenderness and care.

Exactly! If you try to shove it in there and fuck at full throttle, which most guys do, I’d be scared too lol. But I think with proper 4play and lubrication tearing can be kept to a minimum up to about 7”MSEG


September 1, 2016 - BPEL: 6.675in MSEG 4.75in EL: 5.5in FG 3.75in FL 3.5in

November 28, 2023 - BPEL: 8.5in MSEG 5.75 EL: 8.5in FG 5.0in FL 5.25in

PE Goal - (set 9-1-2016) BPEL: 8.5in MSEG 6.5in EL: 8.0in FG 5.5in FL 6in | NEW PE Goal - (set 11-28-23) BPEL 9.25in MSEG 6.5in EL 9.0in FG 5.5in FL 6in

Originally Posted by Deepwrath31
Exactly! If you try to shove it in there and fuck at full throttle, which most guys do, I’d be scared too lol. But I think with proper 4play and lubrication tearing can be kept to a minimum up to about 7”MSEG

That’s the key word “Lube”. As long as you have lube just about anything is possible. I’ve tried with girls before without lube and almost always there’s no pleasure in that for the both of us. One time the girl I was with tried without lube and the damn thing just wouldn’t go in. She grabbed some lube and I kid you not it slid in like a hand into a worn in baseball glove


Current

8.5 BPEL

7.25 EG

Again, while I agree that most women can physically handle 7” or even 8” of MSEG, it might not necessarily be a pleasurable experience. And that would be because of the pain that may involved.

I’m sure there are size queens out there who would enjoy 7” to 8” MSEG.

And I’m just as sure that there are some women out there who can’t under any circumstances handle something like 8” MSEG and would not even want to try.

Bottom line is just because they might be able to physically handle it doesn’t mean that they are going to actually enjoy it.

Like it’s been said it’s really all partner dependent.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
It’s been quoted before, in this thread. Pretty sure it’s 7.5x5.5” for most purposes.

There it’s quoted again! The so called “perfect size.” Too big is still dependent on what it’s being used for and the recipient’s physical characteristics.

Originally Posted by MDC
There it’s quoted again! The so called “perfect size.” Too big is still dependent on what it’s being used for and the recipient’s physical characteristics.

Correct. I quoted that in response to this question below:

Originally Posted by RyanPL
I’ve had experiences with an old girlfriend where I would barely fit, and I’m only like 7.0” BPEL and a little under 5.0 in EG. I’ve had other girls say I’m bigger than most people they have been with, but I wouldn’t really consider myself that big. Bigger than average? Sure, but not huge or anything like that

I’m not an expert, or as “knowledged filled” as any of you guys, not by a long shot! But my thoughts are something like somewhere between 7.5-8.0 BPEL and 5.0-5.5 in EG?

Because he was asking perfect for awe and function.

Saying “it’s partner dependent” to this version of the question would be redundant.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 10-10-2017 at . Reason: clarity

Turns out I underestimated baby head circumference. According to the CDC, a small baby head is 12.5” and a large head is 15”. So the non-tear girth for the average woman having the average baby would be around 10 - 11”, with smaller vaginas (large tear on small baby) still tearing around 8” girth. If I were estimating a 95% range it would be 8” to 13” with a median at 10.5”.

I was browsing around at a fisting forum where women get off on inserting 9+ inch girth objects. Probably even bigger, I didn’t look around too long. Anyway, these women do not naturally or magically have double the vaginal capacity of other women. They just like inserting large objects, and gradually get into bigger and bigger ones. Exploring their full vaginal capacity.

I agree you wouldn’t want to stretch the vagina within an inch of its tearing capacity. Childbirth isn’t generally comfortable for the vagina, even without a tear. The motion and friction of sex will challenge the tissues a bit more. And not every woman is into being filled up to her maximum.

From everything I read over the last couple days, it sure seems like that maximum is in the range of 7-12” girth for 95% of women. And that anyone who is either naturally endowed with 7”EG or who is PE’ing into that range isn’t as doomed as many threads here would lead one to believe. With a small toy collection and a little training for the ladies, a guy with 7”EG could have a very enjoyable sex life with nearly any woman who was willing to explore larger insertions.

Doesn’t mean I’m going for 7+EG, it surely has its compromises, and excludes some portion of women that are unwilling to stretch themselves like that. But it no longer seems so crazy to me when guys say they are going for 7 girth, or that some guys at 7 have no problems with most women. I get it now. If she really wants it, she’ll make it work.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

In my experience, women generally don’t go heavy insertions. Extreme insertions is something I always say is the exception to the rule and I’ve mentioned that before. The question is…do you want to be an extreme insertion?

I sort of do, fully understanding the consequences. I don’t push the optimum girth as 6”+ because optimally I think it is less than that. And I’ve seen enough blood during sex to validate this thought in my mind. But…academically and literally…sex magically won’t stop once you hit 7”+ girth. I used to think that but recently, after a chat with a friend, I revised that thought and wrote about it here: thoughtfulgold - Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold

I’m banking on women making it work. Problem is, women don’t really like to have to ‘make it work’ for pleasure.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Maybe the fisting forum could be a good resource for helping your special lady friends make that leap.

I know swaffel will like it, some of the gals on there are fingering their cervix and enjoying it.

I’m definitely going to surf around there some more later. But my first impressions are that if she comes to the bedroom with an open mind, with a few toys on hand, and perhaps a few sessions, you could do the work for them.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

My girl can I are into extreme insertions, and she can take quite a bit over 7, but only with time, work and lube.

If I partially pump, ( Short session only ), beforehand I can reach up to 7” MSEG and well over 8” at the base. Take your time, get into her head and build
a scene, ( e.g. I’ll talk her through a pick up at a bar, then take her out back and fuck her up against a dumpster while others are
touching her - all in her head ).. By the time I enter her she’s flowing like Niagara Falls.

Do the preparation, reap the reward.


Was - NBPEL 6.5" BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5.5" Now - NPBEL 8.1" BPEL 8.7" MSEG 6.3"

I find this all interesting. People opening up to the idea that larger girth doesn’t mean a no go.


Started 7.75x5.75

Currently: 9.75bpX6.75eg My Picture Thread

Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

Originally Posted by oz
My girl can I are into extreme insertions, and she can take quite a bit over 7, but only with time, work and lube.

If I partially pump, ( Short session only ), beforehand I can reach up to 7” MSEG and well over 8” at the base. Take your time, get into her head and build
a scene, ( e.g. I’ll talk her through a pick up at a bar, then take her out back and fuck her up against a dumpster while others are
touching her - all in her head ).. By the time I enter her she’s flowing like Niagara Falls.

Do the preparation, reap the reward.

Teach me o great Master.


Start: Dec 2016 BPEL: 6.125" MEG: 5.5" (5' - 9" 264 lb)

Curr: Oct 2017 BPEL: 6.75" MEG: 5.625" (5' - 9" 245 lb)

Goal: 7.5" x 6" .......I want to win the dick swinging contest.

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