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How much more do I need

Not really sure if this a right place for this, but I’m convinced I have too small. My bonepressed length is about 17 cm (6.7”), but measuring from the skin it’s only about 14 cm (5.5”) My girth is for the most part about 12,7-13 cm (5-5.2”), but only 12 cm around glans. Skin and BP length difference is that great because I’m fat, 33 BMI.

I’m a diet and have lost 6 kg is two weeks, so if I lose weight until I’m normal 25 BMI, would that have an effect on length measured from skin?

I’ve tried PE exercises few times (jelqing), but didn’t gain much and now I’m scared to start again after I read that topic about how exercises can cause permanent impotency.


Last edited by memento : 03-23-2013 at . Reason: Corrected inch conversion

All the topics you brought up can be found in the search engine.

May I ask how old you are?

A “Skin” measurement as you call it is Non-Bone Pressed or “NBP”. Yes you should see a significant improvement in your NBP length with loosing weight since you have alot to loose from what you said above. You will probably see a good half inch in NBP length emerge from reducing your bodyfat without any PE.

At 5.5 NBP x 5.2 MSEG (Mid Section Erect Girth) you have average length and are slightly girthy with a larger than average girth. Millions of men have gone their whole lives with less and had fulfilling sex lives both as givers and receivers. Actually Billions.

As far as injury start slow with the newbie routine. Your penis is stronger than you think. Jelq easier to start with and watch your EQ (erection quality). If it significantly decreases for days or weeks on end you probably PE’d too hard or too much.

Remember significant growth takes YEARS of dedication. How long did you jelq for when you started?

You’re definitely not too small for pussy as your name indicates. Your mind might trick you that you are though. I am the same size as you and thought I had the smallest penis in the world before finding this site and realized I’m average or somewhat above.

Keep on reading - TP cures anxiety!

I’m already 27 (in other words, old).

I only did jelq two times for about two months, up to 400 strokes if I remember it right. On the second time I was doing newbie routine and I was on the second last week, when - while stretching - I felt pain on the head and when I pulled foreskin out, there was noticeable red spot. First I just left it like that for a few hours, but then I decided to puncture the spot and it gradually disappeared. But it was scary anyway. After that, I’m not sure I’m going to try any stretching again.

What I meant about possible injury is that “penis pipe warning thing” for newbies. It wasn’t here last time, but now it is and PE exercise isn’t so tempting anymore.

I also have problem with somewhat tight foreskin and I’m treating yeast infection at the moment. I just hope that’s the reason for it (or at least the reason why stretching frenulum didn’t work). It doesn’t stop me using fleshlight, but it seems to weaken my erection a little when foreskin doesn’t move much and stays partly over head.

I gave a little too much with 5.2 girth, 5-5.1 (12,7-13 cm) is more correct. I know that statistics suggest I’m average, but it just seem so small whenever I look at it. If I look at it sideways or just see it from opposite angle head on, it looks bigger than seeing it from above, but not sure if mirror is just making it look bigger. My penis might also have a little weird shape, since width is 4,5 cm measured from above and it does look little flat. It might be because foreskin is tight, so it’s preventing that big vein from expanding near the head.

Yea, viewing it from above certainly makes it look smaller than from the side. The mirror itself does not make it look bigger. It’s all a matter of viewing angle.

That’s probably why I always thought other guys dicks were a lot larger than mine when I saw them in a shower or whatever.

Bro you’re good. 5.5 by 4.25 nbp here. My girth is abysmal.

Originally Posted by 2small4pussy
I’m already 27 (in other words, old).

Hey mate, I’ll let the other fellas address your PE issues as they have much more experience than me. I completely disagree with 27 being old - I just turned 28 myself. So many of my friends are a good bit older than me, and from my own experience and their advice here’s the way it is:

In your twenties you’re trying to figure out who you are, constantly trying on new aspects of your personality until you discover what works for you as you strive to be more and more comfortable with yourself. By the time you get to your thirties you hopefully know better who you are and can now focus on simply enjoying yourself and the other awesome people around you. Age is a number and life should get better and better as it goes on.

Sorry if that was a little off topic - cheers fellas!


Start:01 Jan 2012 - BPEL = 6.6 , MSEG = 5.5

01 Apr 2012 - BPEL = 7.0 , MSEG = 5.5

Goal: Bigger than the next guy.. ;D

Yeah I’m going to be 29 in a few months and I don’t feel old at all.

About your stretching I would pull your foreskin back and grip behind the glans (head). I wouldn’t tug on the foreskin, not sure how you are doing it. I’m circumcised so I don’t have this problem. Also like fgtttt said, viewing it from the top is the angle that makes it appear the smallest while the side view (the view women see when they give you a bj) often makes it look the largest.

Originally Posted by Damien84
[QUOTE=Damien84]About your stretching I would pull your foreskin back and grip behind the glans (head). I wouldn’t tug on the foreskin, not sure how you are doing it. I’m circumcised so I don’t have this problem.

I have a problem with tight foreskin, but I can easily pull flaccid foreskin back. But it’s difficult to stretch small 9 cm flaccid unit without gripping foreskin.

But I’m more worried now because of that penis valve damage warning that’s here now. It wasn’t here last time and so far I’ve done few 2-3 months jelqing sessions and they didn’t stop it from working. But don’t know how effective those sessions were, since I wanked a lot and had a hard time keeping necessary erection, so I often had to wait a while before continuing jelqing. Not like minutes, but tens of seconds sometimes. Don’t know if that decreases its effectiveness. My fear is that my jelqing wasn’t effective enough to know whether I have that defective penis valve. Only noticeable difference I remember was harder erection.

You are already larger than average.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

It bothers me that porn is able to get into our heads so much that people who are definitely above average come to believe they are too small to even use their penis.

Best thing you can do 2small is start with the linear newbie routine and take it easy. You’re plenty large enough already so you don’t technically “need” anything.


Best of luck to all fellow PE-ers in their journey.

Originally Posted by juiice
It bothers me that porn is able to get into our heads so much that people who are definitely above average come to believe they are too small to even use their penis.

I’m using it everyday, not just on women. My BPEL might be above average, but don’t really believe that my NBPEL is even average when it’s only 5.5 inches/14 cm.

Hey there!!! I think I am small too, and i am pretty sure by knowing what some girls have told me! They were just embaressd that i couldn’t have a hardon for them because they were too annoying , drunk, or just behaved as bithes!!! So I think every man can have that issue , especially if there is a bitch girl who makes him think he is small!!!


6.7" BPEL , 5.2"EG Clamped (That Massive Cock Head is making me nuts!!!)===> 30/12/2015 Measurment

Originally Posted by 2small4pussy
I’m using it everyday, not just on women. My BPEL might be above average, but don’t really believe that my NBPEL is even average when it’s only 5.5 inches/14 cm.

If you mean “just not on women” then you’re not using your penis. 5.5” NBPEL is plenty to satisfy a women. Be confident and learn how to use your penis. Losing weight will help a ton with this confidence. Not only will your outward appearance and overall health increase, your NBPEL will grow as well.


Best of luck to all fellow PE-ers in their journey.

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