My story and my answer to it my routine

(I´m not native English speaker)
My story with some guidance (not for everyone)
I had sex with girls, they usually seems to like it, not because of my dick, but because of attitude! I think that I’m handsome and I have nice body (some of them told me) I know its advantage, but you can improve your body too (as I did), and you can, actually you have to. They like the way I make them, for example: you have to read their signs or show them how horny they makes you, I mean when they’re wet, because of you, just tell something like “Oh my god baby, you’re so wet, I love it.! Or just taste it and show them that you love it. There is a lot of things like that, if you have a girlfriend and you love her, just make love with her like it was a first time! So, don’t think about yourself or bout your dick Just told yourself, that you’re THE ALPHA and you’re the one who she choose to date with. Forget about yourself completely, be her! Just dive inside it, make moves like a sea weaves.¨
She has to be relaxed, but when she noticed, that there is nothing to worry about, she will change completely. My ex for example has small breasts, but I liked it, but she was so shy about it, she can’t relax, I try to think over it and start different way, we wasn’t naked at all( at the beginning), she has a T-shirt on, and when she was horny from kissing and other things, I’ve started to touch her belly and she doesn’t even noticed, that a moment later, I’ve massaged her breast, then I started to kiss her all over her body and her breast to.

So, rule
Number one! She has to know, that she is the one!
Number two! She has to know, that there is nothing to hide or being shy for.

But, then I’ve slept with different girl and she really broke me for sometime, (so choose your girls carefully- the stupid ones are the worst, cause they don’t know what is too much) There was a problem, because we don’t really liked each other at least I don’t liked her. I was just about sex. My cock slip out, I was kind of nervous of her, because, she wasn’t give me any signs, she wasn’t talk and that was terrible. She stopped, and then we just lay on bed, she played with my lamp (real lamp) and we makes some jokes that she can put it in her vagina, but then she told me that she instead of that would like some bottle size thing inside her and I was just like, she is kidding me right?:D Then she told me that her ex has got something like that and she looks like she really likes to think about it. It was kinda kick for me, I couldn’t talk to her, I had smile on my face, but I thought to myself, why does she told me? I was depressed, send her home, because I didn’t want to do with her anything anymore.

So a started to think over this, I know it is stupid to do it because of her, but I want to please girl which I’m going to love in the future.

There are some mistakes I have been doing over time in PE (3 months in maybe some gains but I don’t write down my first measurements- that was stupid)- I make some points to stick to so..

Stick to the plan!

-Never expect any gains! Nothing worst then being disappointed.

-Measure only once per month(or else, it depends on your decision)!

-Stick to the routine! - It corresponded with previous point- results can be noticed only in long-term.

-My personal rule - masturbate only once per 3 days(, I think that masturbation affects mine routine, but I can’t help myself and I masturbate almost everyday, my dick shrinks and doesn’t seems to grow at all) So I will try it this way.

My cock type is the one with visible veins so when I jelq there are lot of them!

So, I have been doing kind of light routine, 15min. Warmup (maybe less can be done, but it doesn’t limits me in doing other things, I put it in my under-wears), 15 min jelqing- but the jelqs are really tough I mean, normally I have about 12,6cm(4,98 inches) girth and when I press blood in it, I ve got something about 14 cm (5,53 inches) Girth.

In detail -

First step - 15 minutes of warm up, I put rice in (plastic bag or sachet -English:D ) and put in microwave then I just put it on my cock. For 15 min.

Second step - I’m using some sort of vaseline,( based on oil) put it on my hands and do some 4 secs jelqs, first thirty jelqs are light, because when you do it too rough it can be painful.
So I trap blood and push against my cock-head-glans- sometimes it hurts a little, but not too much. At the end I’m trying to raise up the pressure. Sometimes I bend my cock with trapped blood in it, I can see my veins better then normal. ( I’ve heard that bending is good for girth so I just do it sometimes, but not counting maybe 6 times per routine.)
Sometimes I get boner, but I count with it as a part of 15 minutes jelq, I have to wait a while( never raise above 15 min)

Third step - I have some elastic band- little circle made from rubber (diameter 2,5 cm 1 inch) So its kinda hard to put it on my cock, but I do it right after the routine so my cock has trapped blood in it for some time. It shrinks after a while, but not completely, I keep it for an hour.
That hour my cock is big I mean bigger then normal, looks meaty and feels that way.

Fourth step - Together with elastic band, the rice sachet calls me again, If I have time, I’m using it for the whole hour ( you have to put it in microwave again sometimes)

That’s all, my girth routine, I’m going to do it 6 times per week. And I think I have gained about 0,5 cm in girth in 2 weeks ( to 13 cm girth).( I’ve broke the second rule:D )

It’s fascinating that you use a cock ring to trap the blood after a workout and have had good girth gains in such a short time. I too have had good girth gains in a short amount of time and I too trap the Blood after a workout (although I use a hair scruncy because it is not too tough on my cock).

You have to be very careful however that you don’t damage your cock as its similar to clamping and you’re like me, pretty early on in your career. Monitor you PIs and look for discoloration or coldness.

Onwards and widewards!

Small blue : Thanks, and congrats to your gains, I know what are you talking about. At the beginning, I have used mechanical extender and as you said, I have noticed coldness and discoloration, I´m not sure if it was working at all, but I´m looking up especially for girth. So I had to seek somewhere else. I found this place by chance and I´m glad for it. This type of “clamping” works well for me, because it traps blood, but not completely, fortunately it doesn’t hurts as well as other types as I used to.

I will tell you all my progression after one month from now, so you could try this routine too if its working.

Just be careful with the clamped bends. That can be dangerous territory.

This seems like a bit much for an all year routine, even for an advanced newbie with experience clamping.

But as a plateau buster once every couple of months you can do six days a week for a few weeks and see how you heal.

Just remember, if you need more rest or this extreme routine give you erection trouble……

Cut PE routine in half, add more rest, and start over.

The number one problem new PE’ers get is the “must do” mind set where they feel they must do anything and everything or their penis will never grow.

If you PE it’s going to grow at sometime, just not as fast as you would like alll of the time.

The Great Divider: I´m not sure if I understand everything right. You said, that this kind of routine can be over-training? You´re maybe right, but I was doing the the same thing the first two weeks, but instead of 15 min jelqs, I was doing twice a day 10 min jelqs - the same way as I explain. That was kinda too much for me(sometimes), but I was working hard in job and don´t have much time for masturbation, so my cock look stronger a EQ were better( actually at night I sometimes woke up because I was too hard, maybe because of non-masturbation), but sometimes it was too much (in that way, I just skip one of the training), that’s why I downgrade from 14 x to 6x per week. I´m not total beginner, I was doing some sort of newbie routine and it just made my cock more stronger( maybe longer). At the beginning I have some minor injuries, because I underestimated the right heat - preparation for jelq.

Now after the routine It feels like I was doing something, but its not pain, I think it is part of it. When I wake up, I don’t have any bad feelings and it seems to be normal - healed?. Its not that fast I know, that’s why I put one rest day in routine. I will see. And let you know. Thanks for response.

I’m telling you it’s still too much!

You’re still a newbie with less than a year of experience, so gains are going to come no matter what you do. It’s not a special diet or magic supplement that’s helping you grow, it’s just the PE. You could over train your heart out at this time and think you need more to grow more, but you’re not going to gain anything more than 3/4” in girth and about an inch in length your first year to year and a half. Truth be told, you could cut your routine in half to train for ten minutes three times a week alternating length and girth workouts…. And still gain just as much if not more than before.

When it comes to enlarging your penis all you need is a lot of stress (PE exercises) done over a short period of time, just wind up and BANG! PE session is over….. and A LOT OF REST. The biggest thing about PE you and many guys take for granted is the tole it takes on your nervous system. You need a couple weeks of active rest(light pe + rest) after a routine like this or your nervous system is going to take a dive and you could end up having ED with sex because you’re brain is fried from watching porn and stressing arousal, or you’ll have problems achieving orgasm because you need more pressure than she can give in order for you to get off. And don’t confuse the shrinking you get from over training as signs you need to do more, like wear cock rings all day, or that you need to extend your sessions to keep growing.

A smarter PE session for an advanced new guy would probably be the same 15 minutes total, but with an actual goal not just doing this and then that and look “it’s bigger”. Try shooting for a number next time and working up to a goal. What I would have you do is practice holding your kegel muscle super tight while you jelq until you lose your erection, that way you grow your girth and train for rock hard erections at the same time. Do no more than three sets total and aim for 15 wet jelqs each your first time, then add five more reps the next day you PE for girth. It takes a while but you will heal a lot faster and need less time warming up if you can PE progressively longer slowly adding 5 more reps to all three sets each time. Also lose the wraps, you’re still too new to experiment with wraps and experience the injuries they can cause. Trust a PE vet on this one! A minute extra once day can mean a month off of PE if you’re not super careful. That’s why I’m telling you NO WRAPS, and NO CLAMPS for the next few months. You have to know exactly what you’re doing with those too because they can cause all sorts of problems, same goes for advanced squeezing exercises too. There will be a time in just a few months when you’re strong enough and have worked your way up, but really this is not one of those guess and check exercises you can play around with.

Ok, that’s why I´m here to take guidance from more experienced guys like you. At first this month I will try your routine, so ” I´m throwing away clamping stuff, anyway it pisses me off.”

Some sentences are hard to understand for me, like this one “Try shooting for a number next time and working up to a goal” if you can explain me with easier English I would be glad.
I don’t like to count every time, but maybe you’re right. Ill try.

I´m not sure If I understand your routine
Today is a Friday, I have done my routine for today already, so lets start with Saturday:

Saturday : 3 x 15 wet jelqs - trying to keep my kegels contracted each time, or for the whole time in set? I mean - contract kegels jelq 1,2,3,4,5 secs and release kegels. - That’s one jelq, or try to hold the whole 15 jelqs? :D
Sunday : off - Night Masturbation:D
Monday: 3 x 20 - 5sec wet jelqs
Tue: off - NM
Wed: 3x 25 - 5 secs wet jelqs
Thur: off -NM
Friday: 3x 30 - 5 secs wet jelqs

Can I do these jelqs that I used to do, they seems to be working for me for the first time.
And stretching, what about 15 x 10 sec pulling my non erected penis before workout.?
And I will try to avoid masturbation, so I will masturbate every night before routine- so I will have the longest period to heal myself -assuming that masturbation affects my gains( don’t have to be truth)
And thank you for that answer!

No, when you do your jelqs and keep your kegels contracted from the very first jelq until the very last one. If you only get 5 good jelqs and lose your erection, then that is what you will count as a set. Do it for three sets (3X the amount of jelqs) and see if you can get 3 x 5. If you can’t get 3 x 15 or 3 x 20 with super strict form, then only do 2 x (2 sets) of 20 jelqs for a few weeks. It’s a harder exercise, but a lot safer in the long run because you won’t PE long enough to bruise yourself over and over. Does any of this make sense to you? By telling you to shoot for a goal I’m telling you to PE with a goal in mind of doing more proper jelqs (with your kegel muscles tight). Try to add 5 more proper wet jelqs each workout, and by proper I mean equal pressure from base to head where you see your head get bigger at the end.

Actually I would like to see how you respond to a ABA BAB style program where you train head girth and length on “A” days, take a day in between, and then train your kegels for timed holds before training girth work on “B” days, and weekends are always rest days….. You’ll need them after a few months. I’ve been working with this program for about three months, which isn’t long enough for me to write about on here yet, but I’ve seen amazing results…. Better healing so with no red spots, and about 1/8” in the first couple of weeks, but it’s hard to tell because my flaccid is bigger arounf the top 1/3 including the head.

The program is simple, Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays only. On your first Monday and friday, you would do one head exercise for three sets and then one length exercise for three sets, and that’s it! You can do some light wet jelqs, but you’re better off putting all your effort in your length exercises and letting your self rest and be fresh for the girth day to follow. Then on Wednesday and the following Monday you would do kegels held for time where you get an erection and squeeze you kegel muscle as tight as you can and count with a stop watch until it completly goes soft. If you can only get 5 or 10 seconds don’t worry, you’ll increase your time on this one fast. Then for the girth work you’ll do the jelqing routine as I have described abover, 2 to 3 sets of whatever you can do with proper form for 10-15 reps (so about 3-4 seconds per jelq or however you feel comfortable). Again you can do some light girth work after your girth days too, but I found this to be overworking things and just wore on the fingers more than anything.

To really make things simple….

Starting next monday you can try this with me. Starting on Monday you would work your kegel muscles by getting an erection and hitting the start on the stop watch. Once you go limp you hit stop and write your time down. Take about a minute off in between reps and relax your kegels or move around a little. You can do your kegels in the morning no problem, but you need to be able to see your erection to do this. For the girth work my tip to you would be to do it on an empty stomach about four hours after your last meal if you can. Through a lot of trial and error I found fasting before PE between 3-4 hours gave me bigger erections. On Wednesday you will train head girth with three sets of ten head jelqs while you hold your kegels. Head jelqs are done just like dry jelqs but behind the head with very little range of motion in the eercise. You can do them with any hand positioning you want in the beginning, it doesn’t matter. Only later on you’ll want to try different hand postions. Just 2-3 sets with kegels tight and 1-2 minutes of rest in between. When you do stretching exercises you can take advantage of these to add a little more to your head by pumping up your head first and then pulling with a tight grip from right behind. You don’t have to but it’s a nice addition, you could just as well leave your head relaxed. Just 2-3 sets of 20seconds stretching in only one direction. Just one direction! You don’t need to hit every little angle to get length, but if you try you will get bruises from gripping and pulling. The only important thing you need to keep in mind is to keep your kegels tight the entire time. This will pump up your base girth a little and train your kegel muscles to lift heavier weights like the Qui Gong/ Jiu Jiu Chi Gong guys who swing weights from their dicks and pull busses with hanging gear.

It’s a very nice program for shocking growth that is safe for newbies if you can get used to the idea of doing less in your PE sessions but more work in less time. And if you can do it religiously I will show you how to make it tougher so you don’t grow bored in a couple months. I have to say it’s the first program I’ve come up with that I can’t wait to share with the newer guys who are having trouble with the old standby newbie routine because I think it’s a lot easier. But it’s way too easy for a reason, you’re only going to use these four exercises until you master them and then progress little by little with harder stuff. What I don’t want is for newbies to think they need to do more work or mess with advanced pe equipment to get bigger faster. Just try it for next week and tell me what you think after only doing this Monday, Wednesday, and Friday with kegel + girth on Monday, head + length on Wednesday, and kegel + girth on Friday.

Oh my god, thank you so much.

I made your routine schedule for myself, from your points and here it is. I hope I get it right:D

- For others I recommended to read TheGreatDivider post first, this is just summary.

Monday + Friday (Wednesday- every other week)

KEGEL
Get an erection, contract your kegel muscles, hit the start on the stop watch. Till you go limp -write down your time, Take about a minute off in between reps and relax your kegels or move around a little.
You can do your kegels in the morning no problem, but you need to be able to see your erection to do this.
- If you can only get 5 or 10 seconds don’t worry, you’ll increase your time on this one fast.

GIRTH 3 x 15-20 reps
Jelqing routine : Do your jelqs and keep your kegels contracted from the very first jelq until the very last one.
- If you only get 5 good jelqs (so about 3-4 seconds per jelq or however you feel comfortable). And lose your erection or whatever you can do with proper form for 10-15 reps, then that is what you will count as a set, Do this set 3 times

- Try to add 5 more proper wet jelqs each workout, and by proper I mean equal pressure from base to head where you see your head get bigger at the end.
- Tip : Do it on an empty stomach about four hours after your last meal if you can. Through a lot of trial and error I found fasting before PE between 3-4 hours gave me bigger erections.
- If you can’t get 3 x 15 or 3 x 20 with super strict form, then only do 2 x (2 sets) of 20 jelqs for a few weeks.

Wednesday (Monday + Friday- every other week)

HEAD 3 x 10 reps
3 x 10 head jelqs while you hold your kegels. Head jelqs are done just like dry jelqs but behind the head with very little range of motion in the exercise. You can do them with any hand positioning you want in the
Beginning, it doesn’t matter. Only later on you’ll want to try different hand positions. 1-2 minutes of rest in between.

LENGTH 2- 3 x 20 seconds
Stretching exercises -
1. Pump up your head and then pulling with a tight grip from right behind. You don’t have to but it’s a nice addition, you could just as well leave your head relaxed.
2. Just 2-3 sets of 20 seconds stretching in only one direction. This will pump up your base girth a little and train your kegel muscles.

Rules for length
- Just one direction! You don’t need to hit every little angle to get length, but if you try you will get bruises from gripping and pulling.
- Keep your kegels tight the entire time.

The only think that I missed, how many times I should do these kegels?

The kegels you keep tight? There’s just one kegel you hold from start to stop when jelqing or stretching. When you lose your erection you take a few minutes to relax and do it again for your next set. Easy enough? The kegels you do for time is just 3 sets of however long you can hold them before you go limp. It’s going to be harder to PE like this, but it pays of and you get a hell of a lot stronger erections in weeks.

Yes, I get it, I understand kegels combinating with stretching and jelqing.

“The kegels you do for time is just 3 sets of however long you can hold them before you go limp.” this is what I was asking for.:)

Thank you

I’ve messed it up
I’ve tried your routine and the some exercises are pretty hard! I mean, jelqing and stretching with contracted kegels almost impossible!
I usually jelq about 70% erection and when I contract muscles it is painful to jelq. My veins hurts - those in foreskin. I’ve must doing it wrong, and If I tried with smaller erection it seems to be useless ( glans doesn’t enlarge)

I like the kegel stuff but just kegels- nothing more at the same time.

Another thing, when I stretch my cock with contracted muscles - it is really hard:D again, its like dragging for a toy, I contract muscles and then push against it. Its like fighting with my muscles unlike of stretching my cock. So my opinion is, if I want to stretch my cock, I should do it without it.

What do you thing?

You should never stretch while doing Kegel’s, that’s not good for your BC muscles.

What exactly did you do? Give me the sets, reps, and routine here, not just the gist of things.

You know it’s supposed to be more difficult, but not painful.

If anything PE is painful rather than uncomfortable you should stop, warm up, and rethink what you’re doing.

I may have left this out in which case I’m sorry, but you need 2-5 warm up sets before you begin.

These warm up sets are light practice sets to get you ready and should only be used to help you gear up for this very short routine.

Make sure you warm up very well next time and focus on 2-3 sets of TEN reps for any jelqs and TEN seconds for any stretches.

Do the routine I gave you. I paired those exercises together on different days for a very good reason.

And stretching while kegeled won’t hurt your BC muscles unless you’re overdoing it.