@ Bib

Hi Bib,

i have a few questions to u:

-i am a little bit afraid of high weights.
I am currently hanging 3*20 mins using 4,5 pounds.
In a PE book i read that there shouldnt be used weights more that 3,5 pounds.

Bullshit?

Whats the highest weight U used w/o problems??

-do u have an idea what could be better:

Raise in weight or in time?

For ex., 4*20 mins with 5 pounds or 3*20 with 6?
Or isnt this a question at all?

Should i always use the highest weight i can use withuout problems?

-is there a sense (apart from the time i have) to split up a 6*20 mins routine in 2 (morning and evening) *3*20 mins routines?

Bye , SandmannPV

SandmannPV,

These are all good, tough questions. I do not have the definitive answers, but I will give my opinions.

>-i am a little bit afraid of high weights. I am currently hanging 3*20 mins using 4,5 pounds. In a PE book i read that there shouldnt be used weights more that 3,5 pounds. Bullshit?<

Realize that many thoughts on hanging weights come from different perspectives. Some people have had bad experiences with hanging, many because of the type of attachment. Then, they overlay their experiences on other methods of hanging. For instance, if you wanted to use a loop type hanger, I would not recommend hanging more than five pounds. But then, I would not recommend a loop anyway. I can tell you that many guys have used much more than five pounds and received good gains without problems.

>Whats the highest weight U used w/o problems?? <

Please remember, mine is an extreme case and not to be tried by anyone else. I tested the hangers up to 55 pounds without problems. But I was conditioned to do this. There are very few if any other guys who could do this without risking injury. Further, these types of extremes do not have to be tried in order to make good gains.

>-do u have an idea what could be better: <

My opinion is that the sum of weight and time are cumulative. What is important is the amount of stress which gives the fatigued feeling. Many can do this with limited time using higher stresses. Others need more time.

>Raise in weight or in time?<

This depends on your stage of PE. Early on when gains are much easier, both weight and time can be limited. Later, as tissues become tougher, you have to raise the weight in order to stress the tissues. The amount of time you have to spend determines how long the tissues remain in the extended state. However, I think you can get a lot of good from simply doing manual stretches throughout the day after a good hanging session.

>For ex., 4*20 mins with 5 pounds or 3*20 with 6?
Or isnt this a question at all?<

No, I don’t think this is the way to look at it. If 4, 20 minute sets with 5 pounds give you good fatigue, then do that. After a period of time, this will not work for fatigue. Then, you will have to go up in weight.

About the only way hanging is analogous to weight training is; you have to use a level of weights that stresss the tissues. One gram of weight attached to the penis will do no good, right? Also, doing bench presses with one-half pound will do little if any good.

>Should i always use the highest weight i can use withuout problems? <

This is a loaded question. The better way to state it is; use the MINIMUM amount of weight which will give the needed stress to acquire fatigue, or the ‘worked out’ feeling, especially in the area above the base of your penis.

>-is there a sense (apart from the time i have) to split up a 6*20 mins routine in 2 (morning and evening) *3*20 mins routines? <

I have no personal knowledge or experience to draw on in order to answer this question. But my gut feeling is; a split session will be a little more effective than one long session.

Really good questions. I wish I could answer them more fully. Maybe others can impart better information.

Bigger

Bib,

thank u very much for answering.
55 pounds. Eh, :-O

What is normally (for a normal person) a HIGH weight?
15 pounds?

Did i understand u right?:
The weight i should use should be the LOWEST with gives me the stressed feeling?

If this is what u meant than i can say (listening to my feelings) that this is a good answer.
Using the maximum weight also brings an uncomfortable feeling to PE…….

THE AREA ABOVE THE BASE…..this means the area between the bease and the fixed hanger?

BTW, i use your StarterHanger….

Bye, SPV

SandmannPV,

>What is normally (for a normal person) a HIGH weight?
15 pounds? <

It depends totally on the individual. For some, 15 lbs. is very high. For others, 15 lbs is low.

>Did i understand u right?: The weight i should use should be the LOWEST with gives me the stressed feeling? If this is what u meant than i can say (listening to my feelings) that this is a good answer. Using the maximum weight also brings an uncomfortable feeling to PE…….<

Yes. This is complicated, because it depends on what stage of PE you are in. When you first start, it usually does not take much stress to become fatigued. You may be able to physically hang more than the weight which gives you fatigue. Later, it becomes harder to become fatigued. The weight which causes you to feel the work probably IS the maximum weight you can COMFORTABLY hang.

>THE AREA ABOVE THE BASE…..this means the area between the bease and the fixed hanger? <

No, it is the area at the pubic bone, or rather between the pubic bone and the shaft.

Bigger

Aha!
This area which u describe (i think u mean the area aboce the base (when standing), the skin where the public hair is most …. right???)…….

This area is stretched best with the BTC stretch.
(the stretch where u sit on a chair on your feet up on a chair or sth)

Maybe this BTC stretch (i dint see a sense in it yet) provides the “pointing down” penis when flaccid.

I remember a post of you where u describe your development in PEing.
U described that u started with a flaccid penis pointing a bit straight out…..
i could imagine that the BTC stretch corrected this…..

Whats your opinion? Or does the standing hanging position provide a better stretch (or more directly: What sense does it make to stretch the skin above the base??)

Bye, SPV

SandmannPV,

I do not really know exactly what you are asking. But, I will throw out some opinions and see if any of it works.

There are about 270 degrees of hang which can be covered by hanging while sitting down. I think the most important is BTC. But it takes a while to be able to do this.

I never stood while hanging. It did not make any sense in my situation. Some guys do chores while standing and hanging. Some actually workout the rest of their body while standing and hanging. I always surfed the net, or watched TV, or read while sitting and hanging.

One of the benefits of hanging is; it is a passive form of PE. You can do other things while hanging, so it is never a waste of time. To me, standing up while hanging makes it too much like work.

The ligaments which hold the penis within the body are attached to the pubic bone and penis right above the base of the penis. You want to stretch those ligs along with all the other structures, including the skin. BTC does this the most effectively IMO.

Bigger

Hi Bib,

As you know, Im on my 7 day probation because of my bleeding problems. Boy life sure is boring now without hanging. What is a man suppose to do when he is unable to hang? I cant wait to start hanging again. Just wanted to throw this in, during my off days, I had this stress at the base of my penis where you described and it was sore for a few days. Is this the stress youre talking about? Also on my third session prior to my probation, I couldnt do any sitting or BTC, I had to stand due to the stress I had at the base.This stress was a combination of lig pain and skin stretch pain. Is this what Im suppose to be feeling? and if so, what do I do when I cant go further? Standing up was the only one I could have done, but I had to add more weights bacause the weight I used sitting down felt very light but because of my then problem with bleeding, I only added 2lbs, but I felt like I could have added about 5lbs. At this point do you continue or do you take a few days off? Is this the point where potential growth occurs?

Thanks.

I don’t come close to an experienced hanger, however I will tell you that if you experience pinching of the skin or skin stretching pain, then you haven’t wrapped correctly or have the hanger badly adjusted. To hang well it must be cofortable…do not confuse stress with pain. If you pinch the skin, you must make readjustments. I can tell you that hanging with around 10lbs there were time that after 1-2 mins went by you can ’ forget’ that you have weights hanging from your member :hanger:

Bib

the area u described, the area above the base…..

i thought about the BTC stretch and into my mind came:
the BTC stretch should stretch THIS area the most (related to the stretches i know).

The point is, i sometimes aks myself if it is useful to stretch the area above the base (with the BTC stretch for example) or if its better to simply hang wilhe sitting with feet on the ground…..

But its not very important for me, i hang always as i feel its good for me——-

Bye, SPV

kabar

>Just wanted to throw this in, during my off days, I had this stress at the base of my penis where you described and it was sore for a few days. Is this the stress youre talking about?<

Yes, if you had this soreness for a “few days”, you were probably a little aggressive in your program. When you come back, start a little slower and with not so much weight. Give your body time to adjust. This time off may be the best thing that has happened for you.

>Also on my third session prior to my probation, I couldnt do any sitting or BTC, I had to stand due to the stress I had at the base.This stress was a combination of lig pain and skin stretch pain. Is this what Im suppose to be feeling?<

Yes, but it sounds as if you had too much. There should be no ‘pain’. Do not push things that hard. Be safe.

>and if so, what do I do when I cant go further? <

You either change angles to work on other structures, switch to girth exercises for a while, or stop and rest. When your penis is simply totally fatigued, you need to rest. Leave it alone. Let it heal at least somewhat before resuming.

If you have been doing strictly BTC for a while and become totally fatigued, then try OTS or OTL. They are different stretches.

>Standing up was the only one I could have done, but I had to add more weights bacause the weight I used sitting down felt very light but because of my then problem with bleeding, I only added 2lbs, but I felt like I could have added about 5lbs. At this point do you continue or do you take a few days off?<

Over time, you will learn what the correct thing to do is. It depends on the severity of the soreness. If you move to hanging straight out, and you have to lower the weight quickly because of soreness, you have probably overdone it and need to rest. Usually, even when fatigued completely, I was ok within two days. Usually only one day. But you could be different.

>Is this the point where potential growth occurs? <

Growth can occur all through the process. But I always felt I achieved more when hanging while fatigued, even at a much lower weight. But I tried never to push too hard. I did not hang with PAIN. Understand, I had to concentrate on work. I could not concentrate if I constantly was reminded of the hanging. As Guiri said, sometimes I forgot the weight was there.

You may be too impatient. As long as you are becoming sore, do not push for anything more. Lower the weight as needed. And rest when needed.
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SandmannPV,

>i thought about the BTC stretch and into my mind came:
the BTC stretch should stretch THIS area the most (related to the stretches i know). <

Yes.

>The point is, i sometimes aks myself if it is useful to stretch the area above the base (with the BTC stretch for example) or if its better to simply hang wilhe sitting with feet on the ground….. <

BTC will give the most intensity. But hanging straight out will do a lot also. If you become fatigued BTC, then hang straight out. If that is too intense, you can try OTS or OTL, but especially at first, it is probably better to just take a break.

>But its not very important for me, i hang always as i feel its good for me——- <

There will be times when you feel hanging is NOT “good for you”. It will be too intense because of fatigue. Recognize this fact and know when to stop. Do not hang just to be hanging. Pain and significant discomfort are warning signs. Listen to them.

Bigger

Bib,

u mean that if i dont have a good feeling while hanging i should IMMEDIATELY stop instead of pushing me through the last 5 mins of a session?

Should i even do an unplanned restday the next day?

Bye, SPV

SandmannPV,

>u mean that if i dont have a good feeling while hanging i should IMMEDIATELY stop instead of pushing me through the last 5 mins of a session? <

I will not lie and say I never struggled with the last couple of minutes of a set. I did. But in general, do not push any discomfort. If a weight is uncomfortable because of fatigue, just take some off.

>Should i even do an unplanned restday the next day?<

If you have total fatigue you need to rest, whether you planned to or not. The body does not recognize any preconceived workout plan. It has its own agenda.

Bigger

Thank u very much!

I asked this because after 2 weeks of workout i always get a “used” feeling of mich dick.
He is sore, Masturbation is not a fun and the skin feels …. numb……

I do a restday now but it happens again and again……

Bye, SPV