Hanging time

Let’s say there are three people who hang. They all use the same amount of weight, the same amount of total hanging time and the same amount of break between sets, but they organize sets differently.

Person 1 works in office. He wakes up in the early morning and goes to work. When his shift ends in the early afternoon, he comes back home and does a hanging session of 6x15 minutes. Total time: 115 minutes

Person 2 goes to college. He wakes up later than person 1 because his class doesn’t begin that early. He does a hanging session of 2x15 minutes before going to class. He comes back home in later afternoon and does a hanging session of 4x15 minutes. Total time: 35+75 minutes with 6-8 hours between sessions

Person 3 works at home so he has all day for himself. He does 15 minutes of hanging every 2 hours from waking up to bedtime for a total of 6 sets. Total time: 11.5 hours including 2 hour breaks

My question is… Which person’s approach is the best?

Answer: Split Sets are Best
The best way to hang is most likely: 5x sets, with 1x set 12 hours later. (split sets). E.g. 5x morning sets, 1x night or 1x morning set, 5x night sets. Either method would be equally good. The closer you get to that type of ideal, the better. You can still make incredible gains without split sets, but split sets should optimize things a bit & help you maximize gains better.

The split set will help tissue deformation by breaking collagenous repairs, etc at whatever the next most limiting factor was. That will help reinforce the deformation done with the primary 5x sets. Getting 5x sets in a row will allow you to maximize tissue deformation at your target tissues.

Just A Note:
6x 15 minute sets is 90 minutes per day (or 1.5 hours per day). There are 7 days in a week, so that’s 10.5 hours hang-time.

Key Factors for Success:
(maximizing / optimizing gains)
-10+ hours per week
-Hang Daily
-Split Sets Daily
-Ride the Fatigue (Reach fatigue early (in the first 1x-2x sets), then ride it out in subsequent sets)
-Choose primary & secondary angles of attack (always target the primary angle of attack first)
-Primary angle should always start out at SD or BTC even if your penis exits your pelvis at 6 O’Clock (penis naturally points straight down).
-Once suspensory ligament deformation is maximized, it should no longer serve as a limiting factor which should help you more effectively fatigue the Tunica Albuginea (i.e., at this point, the primary angle of attack should no longer be SD or BTC).
-Don’t obsess over the weight used; just obsess on reaching fatigue. You know you’ve reached fatigue when you feel compelled to lower the weight.
-Once your normal hanging angle gains start to plateau (BTC, SD, SO, SU, OTS), you’re ready for fulcrums (e.g. RSDT). Preferably, you’ve maximized suspensory ligament deformation by this time.

About angles of attack:
All your sets should target the primary angle of attack unless:
1-you can longer hang any amount of weight at that angle (shifting to the secondary angle is better than nothing).
2-you’re doing over 12x sets per day (diminishing returns becomes too great)

Lower Angles Target Susp Ligs…
Any lower angle should target your suspensory ligaments, and maximizing ligament deformation first appears to be the most advisable route to success (as I said above, because it appears to prevent the suspensory ligaments from becoming a limiting factor in tunica growth). Another example of a potential limiting factor is tight skin; of course this is easily addressed, unlike suspensory ligaments which are substantially harder to deform than skin, yet still easier to deform than the tunica albuginea.

Quality and detailed answer, I expected nothing less from you blink2000. :) Thanks.

I listened to your advice from before and I do split sets (currently at 4x15 minutes + 1x15 minutes “maintenance set”, that’s how I call it). I will work my way up to 1.5 hours a day (or more if time allows) because today is only my 6th hanging day. The reason why I made this thread is to check if I should keep it at 5x15 + 1x15 or split it to 4x15 + 2x15 or even 3x15 + 3x15 for more equal stress. However, after your answer I now see why split sets approach makes sense.

I’m hanging SD with 1 kg because BTC feels way too tight. I’m still working on perfecting my vacuum hanger grip (i.e. minimizing grip on skin). Do you think it feels tight because of skin or is it something else? My erection angle is about 45° and penis exits my pelvis at high angle as well.

Also, how do I know I should increase weight? I know total hanging time should be increased over weight as much as possible. Right now I start to feel mild ache or soreness in my ligaments after 2-4 sets of 15 minutes, but I have no trouble finishing the session. Note that when I say ache, it feels safe and not dangerous at all, maybe it’s very light fatigue?

Less BTC Weight = Normal
Don’t be alarmed if you can’t use much weight BTC; you’re still creating fatigue & deformation which is all that matters. Eventually you will adjust, but it takes time. I had to stay very light with BTC for a very long time. However, I did make gains during that time too. Supposedly all you need is 2 weeks for skin stretch, but I struggled with BTC for at least 2-3 months (clearly something else was going on & it was somewhat painful for a long time, even with light weight). Even now, I have to do a lighter warm-up set before I can hang a lot of weight BTC (or at least get a few minutes at a lighter weight, it really depends on the day). BTC isn’t painful at all anymore either—it just took a lot of time to adjust, and I had to start really light. I think it was mostly skin stretching (I have really tight skin, even now… I could probably use some more skin stretching).

Fatigue
In terms of defining fatigue; I don’t know how to explain it well, other than a bit of pain that tells you its really time to reduce the weight. You will still get some deformation without reaching major fatigue. However, reaching fatigue early & maintaining fatigue throughout the rest of your sets should help create more controlled damage & hopefully more gains.

Adding & Stripping Weight
I have 99 cent Wal-mart carabiners attached to each of my weights—as soon as I feel pain or recognize that it’s time to reduce the weight, I unclip the weight from the nylon strap on my Bib hanger. I only use these on my weight plates (e.g. 5lb, & 2.5lb). I have fishing weights for the small weights which I can quickly add or remove from the S-hook on my Bib hanger attachment.

More On Fatigue
UpTo7: “Note that when I say ache, it feels safe and not dangerous at all, maybe it's very light fatigue?”
At least for me, understanding fatigue & being able to describe it is possibly the most difficult challenge I have dealt with in penis weight hanging. I’ll sleep on it & maybe have some better answers for you tomorrow.

Does that mean that once 1 kg becomes insufficient for SD, it might become sufficient for BTC? To make it clear, I don’t feel any pain at all, it just feels tight enough to prevent me from using that angle.

I use 1 liter of water as weight so I can’t increase/decrease weight on spot, but I’m working on something more practical. Using carabiners sounds like a good idea. :up:

Thanks again for your help, I’m looking forward to your answer about fatigue. I can understand why it’s hard to describe it, it’s somewhat abstract to someone who never felt it. Most people say “you’ll know it when you reach it”.

Great thread. Nice to see so much info in one place.

Blink - I am curious about your input.

It’s quite logical and you seem to have a solid knowledge base of PE. However your stats don’t suggest you have been as successful as others who may have approached things differently. Why do you think that is the case?

Fatigue is simply recognized when you feel that you need to lower the weights, even during the middle of a set, and you know that it is not because of circulatory problems or discomfort from attachment.

I have never experienced this kind of fatigue when hanging SO lately, but with BTC hanging it usually comes fairly soon in my sets.

My experience is similar.

My input is based on those who have been successful & have made fantastic gains. What approach do you suggest is better?

Hopefully you didn’t misread malice in my question. I agree with your recommendations and your hanging 101 post looks solid also. I was genuinely curious why your gains were not consistent with the knowledge you have on PE. Some are hard gainers, others don’t stick with it long enough and still others aren’t really that motivated to put in all that time and energy just for an extra inch or 2…especially if their SO loves the way they are now.

The only variation to your recommendation I would recommend is multiple sets are better in the morning than later in the day when an ADS is used to keep the penis in an elongated state while healing occurs. If an ADS is used all day after morning hanging, I think the final evening set is optional but if done would probably accelerate gains

Don’t worry, I didn’t see any malice intended. What I mean is this: I have studied hanging & at least for now, I don’t see a better way. If someone does know better methods I am interested, but I believe at this point in time, that these are the best methods known.

I believe your recommendation is worthwhile, but I believe a split set is superior to an ADS for re-breaking the collagenous & other tissue repairs, and restoring the controlled damage & deformation created with the previous session (ideally 12 hours ago). Believe it or not, I have thought through this many times & I have actually conversed with Bib on the subject more than once.

I’ll make up an example to illustrate why I think Split Sets are Superior:
Let’s say your max hanging weight is 20lbs. A single set of 20lbs for 20 minutes will can likely do more than a 1lb golf weight can do in 2-3 hours. If you start looking at 4-6 hours (or more) with 2lbs of force with an ADS device, perhaps it’s more comparable. However, it’s less time efficient. Aside from that, some theorize that the ADS device will prevent you from healing by constricting the blood flow too much (if you use an ADS for many hours per day).

I don’t use ADS, that’s why I’m interested in split sets.

Wearing something that’s not supposed to be on your penis for 4-8 hours a day (or even more) is a huge drag, especially when you’re around a lot of people (and sitting) for the most part of the day.

Hey UpTo7 nice to see you’re hoping on the hanging bus buddy :D .

ddolphin, I use an ADS while at work in the evening and then I’ll come home and hang. I’ve literally hung one set a day and managed to see some great gains as well from hanging just that one set a day. The only thing that I do differently than others is I up the weight every 2-3 weeks. I don’t have time or privacy to be hanging for anything longer then that.

I’m one of you now. :)