No Gains

Yeah we have derailed your thread pretty bad, sorry for that.

I think after 5 months with no gains, it is time to try something different. If you want to try again the extender, you can buy a cheap one on aliexpress. Or you can try just manual exercises for some months and see how they work for you, have you tried that before?

Now, I have a little story for all the enlightened ‘compressive style hangers’ : there is member here, ModestoMan, who doesn’t enter often anymore, but he was here when Bib was here (and I wasn’t here); he is also a Moderator Alumni; he had good gains with manuals, than he thought he could have better gains with hanging, inspired by Bib’ story. He hung under direct supervision of Bib, and when he didn’t gain the advice of Bib was always ‘Do more sets’. Guess what? He not only didn’t gain anything, but ended with a ligaments inflammation. He told his experience here in public and if you search you can find it. Just so you know that we are not the kind of peole who never discovered the wheel.

By any chance do you know around what time period this happened. I am looking through his posts but we are talking over 5000. Even just limiting it to hanging he was switching back and forth between routines constantly.

Best I can see on short notice is he quit the Bib and went back to the Bib. He also didn’t gain with a vac hanger either and the Captain’s hanger was failing him also. It doesn’t look like he gained with an extender either. He also seems to have messed up his measuring at a certain point so he wasn’t sure what he gained.

I also notice that it looks like he never got above 16.5 pounds.

However, I am still looking. It is a whirlwind of switching back and forth. So I just might be in the wrong time period for the info you are talking about.

Still looking but if you remember any detail that can cut this process down I really appreciate it.

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For me, hanging just half that weight produced an inflammatory response that ultimately caused my dick to contract. You’re assuming that, in the battle between the weight and body, the weight will win. That is not necessarily true. Not everybody gains through hanging, regardless of weight.
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>>Originally Posted by vic20

Too much weight too soon. Your body didn’t have time to adapt only to protect itself. Would’ve been better to ride the fatigue.<<

So it was my fault. Maybe. But I was in close communication with Bib, whose clear advice to me was to increase the weight above 12# since I wasn’t gaining after several months and he considered me a vet.
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In the interest of full disclosure and transparency I will post this p.m. I just received from Marinera, and my response.

Don’t know what you are talking about. Do you not like the free exchange of information? What is it you are afraid of? Is it that you realize my information actually has great potential to empower those you would rather see repressed, and you are looking for some pretense to ban me? What is this site really about? Are you one of the Gait keepers?

I ask all of you that are reading this to beg this venerated and accomplished master of the p.e. Posting forum that is thundersplace. Org to please not ban the lowly swaffel, with only having been able to post a paltry 5 times. At least not until he has had the opportunity to impart what he humbly considers to be wisdom he has gained over a life time of travels, study and dedication on a topic that is near and dear to everyone here at thundersplace.org. Ask him to forgive swaffel for his sometimes “verbose” language. You may even remind him, this all powerful moderator who has the power to ban anyone of us at the press of a button, since he has chosen to use a V word, of a quote from V Is For Vendetta: “Words will always retain their power. Words are the the means to meaning, and for those who listen, the enunciation of truth,.”
I will not deal with him on a private level. I don’t trust him. I think he is being disingenuous. I will only address him in a public forum. I understand to most of you I must appear to be an extremely suspicious character. That’s all right, I am, and it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. And since I have the feeling that this will be my last opportunity to post here at thundersplase. Org let me further illiterate the case I am putting forth against Marinera. First of all Marinera claims to have nearly a ten inch long erect penis with over six and a half erect girth. He also claims to have made some fairly substantial gains, and despite having posted a nearly unbelievable amount of times, so many times in fact that one could fairly assume that he has dedicated his life to helping others achieve what he has, yet he has offered no proof. Not one single picture. We’re supposed to simply trust him. Hmmm. Second, it has been my experience that the techniques he advocates do little to nothing to increase one’s size, and at best only serve to toughen the penis. Anytime someone advocates a methodology that in my opinion has a chance of actually increasing one’s size Marinera ridicules it. Anytime someone advocates a methodology that would enable one to retain there sperm, he ridicules it. Anytime some one posts a picture of a penis that would compare to his, supposedly, he ridicules it. In fact, anytime any one says anything that doesn’t fit inside his box he ridicules it. I have only addressed this man twice, at least I presume he’s a man, of course we cannot know given the nature of this forum, for all we really know Marinera could be a committee or even an A.I. Software program, but just for the sake of this argument I will stick with the “man” premise. Like I was saying, twice I’ve addressed him. The first time I immediately get a private message from another moderator, warning me to watch what I say, simply for calling into question what Marinera had to say. The second time I get the message above. Somehow it didn’t surprise me at all. In my previous post I gave the essentials of a strategy that has allowed me to quadruple my erect volume, and dramatically increase erectile function. Marinera chose to ignore this entirely, and immediately went to work looking for ways to quasi legitimately ban me, and coincidentally or not my post was immediately buried beneath several posts, all of which were moderators. Hmmm.

Marinera, I’m interested in your thoughts because I’m one of those failed cases of PE/hanging.

I’ve given up on PE.. Well maybe not given up, but I’m taking an extended break. Started out with manuals for 6 months, no gains. So I tried vac hanging for a couple of months. No gains. Went to a bibhanger for 3 months, no gains. Ok, let me preface that with no BPEL gains. I think I had about 1/4” BPFSL, but nothing in BPEL, which after all is the real goal.

I thought it was my wrapping, got feedback on it, it seemed ok. I got feedback on the setup. Everything seemed kosher. Nevertheless, no gains, even with high weights. I read everything, about riding the fatigue, proper wrapping, proper setup to grasp internals, prevent slippage. I read every thread on hanging especially those who were having trouble, to see if I could identify something wrong in my approach. All to no avail.

I went as high as 15 lbs, 10 hours a week.

And frankly it was tough to hang 1.5 hours of actual hanging a day. That amounted to 2.5 to 3 hours a day, holed up in my room a day. And at 12-15 lbs, other areas of my body got really uncomfortable - my ass would go numb, my back would hurt, etc.

I stopped all PE around 5 months ago. And decided to see what was new in PE and found this thread, in particular, Marinera’s counterpoint to the conventionally accepted tenets of hanging. And I feel like I’m one of those where those accepted tenets have failed. So I guess I’d like to hear more of your thoughts. It seems like you’re a proponent of low weight, longer, extended time for hanging/stretching?