Hanging: Ride the Fatigue (Blink's Progress)

wow 6-8 hours of ADS is quite a bit.. I only do 2hrs 15 minutes right now, I’ve never gone over 2.5 hours per day.

Pressure to go past BPEL?
-people estimate 10-15 hg — I believe bathmate is MAX ~15hg; I worked up to the max slowly over months I probably am close to 15hg when I’m puming to 7.95" BPEL inside the tube (this is past my 7.625" BPEL outside the tube).
-I don’t always get 7.95"; it’s sporadic

Regard EQ:
-For me, pumping has only improved my EQ.. but I only do short sessions & I still take plenty of rest days (2 on 1 off, but I’ve not been as consistent in the last few months & have extra rest days sometimes).
-Something worth note, it’s only since pumping over a year now that I’m starting to see a massive vascularity difference in my penis.. my flaccid is thicker / longer & way more veiny than ever before (and my package looks much bigger — the wife has mentioned it time to time).
-You said pumping is hurting your EQ — how long / frequent are your sessions?

My ADS is very comfortable and discreet. I have to say I believe it to have been one of the best mechanics for growth for me. Low to moderate tension over long periods of time. If I am in a recovery mode, I wear an ATD instead.

I pulled it from my routine for a month but I have added in a session mid week. Right now I am doing two 5 minute sets but I am only reaching 2-3inHG. It took my EQ down a bit the next day but it was not catastrophic as it has been in the past. I had session before where I would pump to 3-5inHG and tried to say in the tube longer. I just need to condition. I have a good amount of volume in other PE activities. I believe it will require a balance of my fatigue.

Oh my pumping is really intense (10in-HG to 15in-HG/ whatever max for bathmate is), but strangely it only helps my EQ — I wonder why my body responds differently..

In fact, I continue to notice major vascularity improvements & I believe pumping is responsible.. my flaccid is far thicker, longer & more veiny than ever before in my life —> and I did PE for years in the past (hang/ jelq/ manual PE during newbie routines). Pumping is what changed, so I give pumping credit.

ADS is working incredibly well for me; BPFSL was 6.5" in Jan 2024 — today I measured it at 8.3" — so 1 year & 4 months for 1.8" BPFSL gains. This is encouraging.. even if I have to reach 9" BPFSL before I can reach 8" BPEL, it’s going to happen sooner or later.

My routine is now 8 minutes pumping and 2hrs 15min ADS… I’ve been increasing the tension a bit on the band (with the metal slider) instead of making the ADS session longer. I will eventually go back to increasing the session, but I’m happy that it’s now been 4+ months since the injury with no issues. I’ll slowly ramp up to 10 minutes of pumping; I started at only 3 minutes post injury, and I’ve never done sessions longer than 10 minutes. For me, the effect of 10 minutes is major & I’m happy with it. I also have yet to pump past 7.95" or so; I still can’t get to 8" in the tube (and just estimating; I’ll probably have to reach 8.25" in the tube before I can reach 8" outside the tube).

Good stuff Blink! You are right about 8.25 in the tube. I realized I loose 1/4 inch or more because of the extra girth expansion. I have been riding this line for years now. Not aggressively trying to gain just maintain a healthy penis. I mostly pump for fun and it fits easily into my routine.

The quick gains you had upfront really make hanging an idea to consider, but I have already bought and become comfortable with all my other toys! Need to track down a proper hanging versus extending thread or explainer. If anybody has found such, please send it along. Much appreciated.

I came back to PE because my EQ was terrible — this is why I got into pumping… Then I decided to find the lowest effort routine possible.. and gained 0.875" BPEL in my first year back, which was surprising for me, since I’m historically a bit of a hard-gainer, but I finally found my groove (and EQ is way up too… easily the best I’ve had since my 20’s & not far off that either… kegels & pumping is what I think is driving this).

Hanging definitely works, but you don’t need it.. Extender, ADS, hanging, manual stretching — it really doesn’t matter, they all work. Instead just stick with what you like & what’s working… BUT, if things aren’t working, that’s when I suggest experimenting/ changing things up. And by working — I mean BPFSL gains.. I’ve had 6 month stretches with no noticable BPEL gains, even while gaining over 1’ BPFSL in a year (it doesn’t always translate right away, but wil eventually).

Now about this —> you said you’re looking for a thread that explains "hanging versus extending thread or explainer"
-they are basically just 2 different ways of stretching your penis
-I recommend either route you pick, you should pick a vacuum attachment, it’s by far the most comfortable (and both hangers/ extenders offer it - not all brands, but plenty of each type do).
-Personally I use stealthformen vac ADS — it’s quite expensive, but the most comfortable.. Honestly a 20 dollar extender off ebay or alibaba can probably get the job done, but noose extenders are painful & take time for your penis to adjust because it puts a lot of presure right behind the glans… They certainly work though, and you can eventually adapt to it.

I’ve tried every length gain device out there & have stuck with vac ADS as the least intrusive (I can wear it while watching TV — while other people are around & they can’t tell! & I have even worn it while leaving my house for takeout — not exactly recommended, but it worked out…).
-totalman has a really affordable vac ADS/extender/hanger attachment— you can use it for any of those purposes — that was my first vac ADS (and it’s maybe 1/4th the cost of stealthformen). The downside? it broke for me — because I was using too much coconut oil.. I now only use water when attaching my vac ADS devices & no longer have any issues (they all last longer now).
-extender sticks straight out which limits how/ when/ where you can wear it - and hanging has the same issue… so at least for me, convenience of ADS wins.. BUT.. ADS is limited (I can attach to each leg or a shoulder but not a whole lot of options necessarily.. in contrast, with hanging you can do fulcrum, OTS (over the shoulder) OTL (over the leg) and all sorts of stuff you can’t do with any other method.. this is useful if you have time to decidcate & really want to grow fast..
-I’ve had the most results from lightweight vac ADS (low tension over a lot of time)… finally, vacuum attachments don’t need to be taken off/ put back on every 20 minutes (like a compression hanger) or once per hour (like a noose extender), you can wear it for indefinite amounts of time
-Be aware, I felt like attaching my vac ADS was a pain in the ass for over a year, I think it’s taken me over a year to master how to put it on/ what my perfect part sizes are (etc) — I actually broke a lot of vac ADS parts (turns out I was sized wrong & had to keep buying replacement parts — a downside of vac devices is they wear out faster). In contrast, with a Bib hanger, that thing is a tank, you could use the same one for 10 years (without buying any extra parts) but you’ve got to take it off every 20 minutes to circulate…

anyway, hopefully this helps you think through your options.

Hope you find that comparison helpful.. as I said, all methods / approaches have merit.

I was reflecting on what I’ve done differently this last 1.3 years of PE, trying to think of why in my first year I gained 0.75" then gained nothing really after that (except a LOT more base erect girth — over 1" from hanging probably). In contrast, why did I gain 0.875" my second time around (after my 10 year decon break). At this point MOST of my gains are from just over the last year of PE.

Contrasted gains:
1-first time (3 years roughly) - newbie routine , then hanging (0.75" BPEL gained)
2-second time (1.3 years)- newbie routine, then vac water pump + ADS (0.875" BPEL gained)
-also gained 0.5" MSEG and 1.5" BSEG (but it’s hard to know when, since I’ve never focused on girth, it just came with the length gains).

What Changed?

1-Rest Days
-The first time, I switched from a 2:1 (2 days on, 1 day off) to a 5:2 (5 days on, 2 days off).
- This second time around, I stayed on 2:1 … (I never did a 5:2)
- Observation: sometimes when I had a forced week off from PE is when I would suddenly notice gains

2-Force
-The first time: I slowly hanged with more & more weight.. but gains also slowed, then stopped
-This second time around: I did vac ADS attachment & would sometimes increase tension with the band (starting with the totalman vac ADS & later the stealthformen ADS), but never did more than use the standard tension band & at least for me, the vac device always feels like it’s going to slip with high tension, so I never use that much tension.
-Observation: using less force I gained more length.

3-Pumping
-The second time around I pumped, it’s made a massive vascularity difference in my penis, its greatly increased my EQ, and I can consistently pump at least 0.25" past my BPEL.. In rare situations I can pump 0.5" past my BPEL— I’ve now realized it’s when I’m close to gains that this happens.
-Observation: massive flaccid improvements, EQ improvement, and BPEL improvements all appear to come from pumping…

My wife notices my package now too.. it’s much bigger than it was after my first round of PE all those years ago. It was shocking to hear her say a few times "damn your package is huge" — it was more striking after I lost weight & got down to around 5% bodyfat (because I’m wearing skinny jeans which apparently make my package far more pronounced).

I also gained 1.8" BPFSL with vac ADS (low force) going from 6.5" to 8.3" during my last 1.3 years of PE.
During my first years of PE, my BPFSL always lagged behind BPEL, going from 5.5" to 6.5" (so only 1" gained - and I was hanging with a lot of weight).

I think it’s safe to say vac ADS has been vastly more effective for me in terms of BPFSL gains & I’ve got far more unrealized gains now too…

One thought: I haven’t been doing jelqs (due to lack of time commitment) — I wonder if that would help "convert" some of my unrealized gains.

blink2000, thank you for the comparison and detailed response. Awesome to hear about your gains and that your wife is noticing, a little validation never hurts. With your new routine, seems clear the winners for you are the vacuum ADS as well as the water pump. How much time are you putting into each of those specifically?

Checked out the stealthformen site, going t add sleeves into the mix for sure. Thanks for that.

2.5 hours of vac ads and 10 minutes pumping is my typical routine, 2 days on, 1 day off

I will try your routine because I saw that less is more in PE. What is the pull strength in lbs of your ADS?

Tenx

not more than probably 5-10lbs.. i’ve actually increased the force lately because i’ve gone a few months with too little growth.. if it goes too slow, i may eventually go back to hanging; for now I’ll just tighten the strap (I’m using the stealthformen vac ADS — i used to use the total man vac ADS; it showed me that I liked vac & then I purchased the much more expensive, but very nice StealthforMen ADS).

about my routine — I’m able to do this indefinitely really; time investment is next to nothing … the hardest part was finding what to blend together (10 minutes pumping / 2.5 hours ADS) — it takes me 10 minutes to pump which is relatively hands-on & it takes me about 10 minutes to put on my vac ADS — and maybe 3 minutes to remove it/ put it away — so for me, it’s only about 23 minutes invested per PE day.. to me, its a totally worthwhile investment & doesn’t interrupt my life.

try it! good luck with it & feel free to ask any questions…

in the meantime I’m still researching ultra low effort girth growth.. once I reach my length goals I’ll switch gears.. I hope to find something similar (that doesn’t take more than about 25 minutes per day but can keep yielding gains for years).

You’re very welcome & good luck!

Thanks for the answer and congratulations on your growth achievement.

I gained 1" with Bathmate in 6 months, then I reached a plateau, gave up and after 1.5 years I started to lose weight and gained 1/3" in 3 months then the growth stopped. I tried all the methods including the xeno IPR method which added a few millimeters but my penis got firmer by pumping 10-13hg, hanging 4kg weights so that it was full of collagen and I reached a plateau. I decided to go on 6 months of decon so that the penis becomes elastic again.

If I may ask
-how did you gradually increase the force and time in ADS and Bathmate over 1.4 years.
- did you jelq and how much

I think the biggest problem with PE is that the penis hardens too quickly due to using too much force too quickly and time under force.

Tenx

Hey blink2000, when you say you use the Stealth for Men ADS, do you then put in an extender and vac extend (i.e. Apex, Hog, etc), hang weight from it, or just use the velcro bands and extend? Sorry if you’d already mentioned it, but I’m just curious. Like you, I have noticed quite a bump in BPFSL over the last year or less and would love to capitalize on that and continue to gain in length. Congrats on your gains and recent comments from the wife (certainly helps motiviation), and keep it up! Thanks!

Let the rest of us know should you find a breakthrough for "low effort girth growth" as you say. :) I’m also focusing on length right now and my girth gains have just been a bonus from light clamping or kegeling which helps vascularity and blood flow.