Alli Orlistat Xenical

I’m sure some of you have heard of the “diet” pill ALLI. It has been selling in stores such as Walmart for over a year now? You can buy it off the shelf. Xenical is the prescription version. My mother says her doctor gave her the prescription for Xenical to help combat her rising weight and health issues. I’ve spoken to her about the side effects. She rarely uses it unless she knows for sure she will be at some special event that will require eating something unusual.

With that in mind I have been on a cutting diet for 60 days now and have been doing great, I plan to continue it for another 60 days. Thanksgiving is coming up and I will be visiting my mother in law’s. There will definitely be all sorts of fattening foods there. She is the type that will tell you there is no butter involved in the making of some of her foods but she ends up putting in a whole stick of it unbeknown to all. In either case I am planning on getting some low cost Orlistat/Alli/Xenical, if anyone knows of any places to get them please tell me. I’ve heard all about the side effects of “leaky bowel contents” and plan to wear a cut down version of adult diapers. :o D

The drug is supposed to inhibit the absorption of fat from the foods that we eat. That is why the side effect is leaky/oily bowel contents.

Any other personal experiences and feedback of this drug would be appreciated.

Someone is selling “TRIAL SIZES” on Ebay. They are repackaged though without factory seals so I’m not so sure I’d gamble with those.

Is this the stuff made from shellfish bits? If so, then yes, I’ve used it.

Nasty squirts, oily anal ‘leakage’, stinky discharge at all. I’d pass.

For Thanksgiving I’d just avoid the overly greasy crap.

I’ve found carb/ starch blockers pretty benign as to side effects— at least they didn’t leave me with ‘nasty ass’.

And considering how starch intensive Thanksgiving is, that may be a more useful tool anyway.

I’ve always doubted "carb blockers". Is there a way you can see if they work? Such as Carbohydrates still intact in your stool?

I believe you are referring to Chitosan. This page says its not the same. Weight.com / Michael Myers, M.D. 404 . Orlistat is the active ingredient, Xenical being prescription version, ALLI being off the shelf, half the dosage of Xenical. Chitosan and Carb Blockers are on the supplement "maybe works" list while Orlistat is an approved medication.

Piss on a keto-stix

Possibly. I’ve used Keto strips before but perhaps I had a bad batch, they NEVER showed me in Keto even though I knew I was losing a lot of body fat and was well into caloric deficit state. The Keto strip could show the carb blockers working if your diet was exactly the same and then started taking enough of the carb blockers and showed the presence of ketones. I’m not positive if there is measurable levels of ketone in urine in someone dieting as opposed to a diabetic?

Ketosis isn’t generated by a calorie deficit— but by a shift in metabolism to the use of lipids as fuel in the absence of carbohydrate.

Generally you’ll have to increase your fat intake to provide enough excess to kickstart the ketosis, particularly if you’ve been on a low fat diet for a while as your body downregulates enzymes necessarily for fat metabolism.

You should worry about the source of the problem, not the band-aid. In your case, the problem is your holiday meal.

I stopped going to family thanksgiving dinners because they were offended when I brought my own food.

Fuck ‘em, my goals are more important than thanksgiving dinner.

Yeah, but are you surprised?

You eat cats.

I like a little pussy, but unless I’m in Chinatown I’m not down with that— and you ain’t bringing any kitty to my dinner table

;)

Whoa.. think again unless you like bright orange oily stools that float on water and leave a nasty orange ring on the bowl… Yeah it works but there are somethings that may not be worth the costs…

Thanksgiving food is relatively healthy. As opposed to say the fourth of July, or something. One meal, big or fatty or otherwise, will not mess up your cut. Really, how many calories could you possibly take in, in one meal? You’re not going to get fat from a cheat meal. Anything that would cause “anal leakage” is no longer up for consideration. End of story. Stick to the turkey and veggies, Mashed and sweet potatoes are actually good sources of carbs. The stuffing and any extra butter may be hazards, but like I say, one meal is not going to make any difference. Do you actually have a competition/show coming up? If not, don’t worry so much. Work out before the big meal, and maybe take a long walk after. Better than any pill, bro.

WARNING: This may be too graphic for some.

I received some Alli a few days ago. I tried it out on a very large meal on Saturday since it was unavoidable. I took two Alli pills, 60x2 mg to equal one Xenical.

I did not wear diapers but did put on some boxer briefs. I usually go commando. So far I’ve been able to not accidentally discharge anything. At first a normal bowel movement had a combination of stool and orange oil floating on the water. This bowel movement occurred about 16 hours after the meal since it was a dinner meal, I slept on it. Later on I would actually expel just the orange oil while sitting down and urinating. It is now Monday morning and I am still expelling the orange oil with urination, I have yet to have a bowel movement today. I am considering either the pills keep working or the oil just takes a long time to expel. I can foresee a risk of an “accident” if there were oil piled up before the sphincter and you unclenched. I’ll keep this updated.

I would guess that so far about 4 tablespoons of oil has been expelled. I’d estimate that to be at least 500 calories was not absorbed, if 1 tablespoon of cooking oil has 120 calories.

Be careful that you supplement your diet with the appropriate fat-based vitamins as xenical et al will not permit these vitamins to be present in sufficient quantities in your system.

Btw, if you expelled that amount of oil from one meal, I would suggest changing your diet..

Thanksgiving weekend went great! One of the food items had 4 sticks of butter used in making it! I did not experience anything I couldn’t handle. Just remember to go to the bathroom when your body tells you to and to clean yourself thoroughly as the oil can run down places you wouldn’t think it could. Warm oil is hard to be detected by the body as it moves on your skin. I have not yet weighed in and checked if I gained any weight as I am right now going thru a cleanse in order to get rid of all the food matter and get an accurate weigh in.

Oz is correct, I did supplement vitamins while using Orlistat, but I had already been supplementing while previously cutting.

I had been doing great and reduced my weight by 20lbs in two months, now to continue the endeavor. I am not going to use Orlistat as a dieting tool as my cutting diet is low in fats, but it does come in handy if you have a cheat meal or special occasion you can’t avoid.

UPDATE on Thanksgiving fat gain.

After my one week of normal dieting to get rid of food mass and bloat I’ve finally settled down on how much fat weight I gained. I do this to make sure the weight is actual fat and not something else such as water or food mass. I weighed myself when I got home. I’d been eating A LOT even till the last day of the drive. I used Orlistat with each meal. My initial weigh in was 14 lbs heavier! Then I went back on my cutting diet which I knew gave me an average loss of 2.5-3 lbs a week. After 1 week of this my weight dropped dramatically back down.

If you calculate in the 2.5-3lbs I lost in the one week, my true fat gain from the Thanksgiving “binge” was 5 lbs of fat gain in 4 days of eating like crazy! That is an average of 4375 Calories surplus a day! And I’m pretty sure the bulk of it was on T-Day so I ate much more than that on that day. I don’t know what I would have gained if I did not have Orlistat on my side. I undid two weeks of dieting within 4 days. Next up is Xmas day. It shouldn’t be as bad since we are doing the cooking for ourselves this time.

They say the average T-Day meal is 2000-2800 calories. I suppose I had several meals :) One of the desserts had 2 lbs of butter put in from what I heard. My mother in law goes crazy with fattening foods around the holidays that’s for sure!