AndroGel for PE /HGH for PE

Can anyone offer any insight as to whether applying AndroGel directly to the penis would cause growth or if used in conjunction with PE exercises cause gains to occur faster? After all, isn’t testosterone reponsible for penile development to begin with?

What about Human Growth Hormone. There is a product on the market(a transdermal gel) that allows you to mix powedered or liquid medicine into this gel and then apply the gel to an area of the body where it can be absorbed through the skin. What if you were to take Growth Hormone which comes in a liquid form, mix it with the transdermal gel, and apply it directly to the penis where it would be absorbed right through the skin into the tissues. Could that cause the penis to grow or at least give quicker results when used with PE exrcises?

Andro gel (and its pitiful dosage of test) is less effective than 4 androdiol (whick can be made into a transdermal product with 151 or ethanol. the androgel patches are usually affixed to the scrotum. gh on the other hand looks promising if you can find an aids paitent or a juice dealer serono or saizen kits would be worth trying.

RC

I’m not an expert on the specificities of testosterone and PE, but I’d caution you with an example from the Big Book of Steroids:

If your penis is suddenly flooded with testosterone, your body might say “Well, that’s enough juice for today. Shut down the testosterone factory, boys!”.

Then again, the PE paradigm might be different from the steroids/bodybuilding paradigm in the respect.

-Jab

In my experience, I began PE a beer drinking couch potato, with a testosterone level
below 540. Ok but could be more.

I took lots of supplements to stimulate HGH release and natural testosterone release
and pump iron big time like a mad man, in addition to staying erect for hours at a time.

Result: my testosterone is now a whopping 689, and I had laid off all supps for seveal days
before the test.

I can feel the difference. Do it naturally and beware of the patch thing unless you are really
deficient down in the 350 or less range.

Is there anywhere to get androgel via the internet w/out perscription?

If you put androgel directly on your penis, you will be transfering testosterone to your partner when you have sex. Something you definitely want to avoid, unless you want a girlfriend with a mustache.

mravg

It should also make the clit grow. Which is not bad within limits, but definitely more hairy and more acne. Hornier and probably a bit more argumentative.

Phat9, what supplements did you take to stimulate HGH release and natural testosterone release?

>Do it naturally and beware of the patch thing unless you are really deficient down in the 350 or less range.

Even if it’s low other treatments should be tried first. Testosterone replacement therapy (or AAS use) is NOT something to take lightly. It will eventually slow or stop natural production.

Jambaz, a few things to boost T naturally:

• Make sure you’re getting adequate zinc.
• Eat enough fat.
• Don’t starve yourself - eat well and plenty.
• Exercise regularly, but don’t overtrain. Weight lifting is best.
• Get plenty of sleep and avoid stress.

>>Even if it’s low other treatments should be tried first. Testosterone replacement therapy (or AAS use) is NOT something to take lightly. It will eventually slow or stop natural production.>>

I will weigh in as the doctor here:

I disagree. In fact even on the low end of normal there is much current medical evidence to suggest that testosterone replacement should be offered if there are signs or symptoms referable to deficiency.
What should happen is a thourough work up. If the testes are failiing and the prospect for recovery is poor, fooling around with supplements is just - well fooling around.

Being a keen bodybuilder and keen juicehead i;m interested in this thread. But just to clear up the whole fear of ‘the boys shitting down’ thing. If you use AAS then after your cycle you take Clomid, it stimulates natural test production.

Testosterone is responsible for penis development through puberty, but afterwards the receptor sites close. If they did not, your penis will grow more and more. Test will not help PE. Putting it on the penis will not help.

I disagree that androgel is less effective than 4-AD. 4-AD is a precursor to test, androgel IS test.

Moth is right on too, pop some clomid for increased natural production of test. It is legal to order in the US and UK for personal use, some people on the boards have tried it for increasing ejaculation loads. I hear it is used in porn for this purpose, but that is beside the point.

SS4

Speaking of topical application of testosterone precursors, has anyone had any luck applying a DHEA cream to their penis?

I thought Androgel was a nandrolone precursor, not a testosterone precursor. That is why it is recommended to bodybuilders with a predisposition to hair loss.

Unfortunately, HGH is too big a molecule to be absorbed transdermally.