Originally Posted by Actionjacksonaz
That’s all I do is blast and cruise.
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I’m 35 and have been using since I was 30. 6’2 215 8%
I’m 34. Last cycle I ran was when I was 25 or so. I plan to go on HRT at some point, but I’d like to wait until it’s necessary. I’m concerned that if I do an extended blast & cruise in my mid-30s, it might be hard to get back to naturally healthy test levels afterward (I’m around 650 total, free is good as well as well but I forget the specific value). I will also need to get the wife pregnant again in the next couple years, and I worry about the potential impact on fertility.
Originally Posted by Actionjacksonaz
What are you using the proviron for? It’s basically masteron. You’d have to be at like 5% body fat to even see the muscle hardening effects. Unless your using it for something else.
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You won’t experience any shut down at all from those compounds although I would run proviron with test minimally. I’m not into pro-hormones.
I’m not looking for any hardening effects or anything anabolic from proviron. I can maintain 8-9% bodyfat no problem, but I’m probably closer to 11% right now and pretty bloated from the MK-677.
I’ve read quite a few studies about proviron and HPTA shutdown. Most show no to minimal impact on the HPTA. However, some show shutdown. I’m going to get bloodwork done to be safe. If I’m suppressed, I’ll just start a basic cycle and then run a proper PCT afterwards.
As I’m sure you know, proviron is essentially oral DHT. It is very androgenic. I’m using it solely for its androgenic properties.
- possible contribution to PE gains (although the popular opinion is it won’t help)
- libido enhancement
- EQ enhancement
- positive mood and sense of wellbeing
- misc other benefits of androgens
As far as contributing to
PE gains, I found this interesting. Sample size of one, but who knows…maybe it will help.
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Fast forward years later, I added Proviron into my TRT protocol due to all of the amazing benefits it carries(mood, vigor, confidence, wood, etc, I mean, this drug was once prescribed successfully to unresponsive depressives and bi-polar). My penis size has been the same ever since I was 14 years old. It was 6" NBPEL. Measured many times into my adulthood. Even after years of TRT it was still the same.After being on Proviron 25mg every day for over a year, I decided to get back into PE. So before I began, I decided to measure my penis, and I was shocked. It measured in at just over 6.5", and this is definitely not attributed to EQ. My penis had actually grown over half and inch from taking this very potent DHT derivative for every day for over a year. It began to make sense, why steroids when I was bodybuilding(I have done just about everything) had never grown my penis, while taking this for a long period of time did. It is all about a consistent and very strong long term binding to the AR though 5-alpha reductase. Steroid cycles may bind to the AR, but you come off them weeks later, or sometimes you are using hormones that compete with the androgen receptors, not to mention the peaks and valleys. Not using a powerful DHT derivative while the rest of your hormones are at steady physiological levels(more specifically e2, progesterone, prolactin).
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