Choriogonadotropin alfa (hCG) treatment

My endocrinologist just prescribed me this after I told him I wanted to boost my testosterone levels (which are normal btw) without supplementing with testosterone.

I believe he said hCG stimulates the body to produce LH or FSH which stimulates the testes to produce more T.

Now the thing is hCG seems to be mostly used by infertile women and I didn’t find inofrmation about its use by men after a quick search.

Does anyone have any more info about hCG? Has anyone used it?

The endo told me to inject the hCG preparation twice weekly for one month.

I would appreciate any info/experiences from the knowledgable members here.

Thanks!

It it sometimes used in males to stimulate undecended testicles. It may cause them to grow a little too. Less commonly it is sometimes used in combination with GnRH as an alternative hormone therapy. If you search out a few BB forums you should find plenty of information.

Have you started the injects yet?

Good, safe product. You wont get the side effects of testosterone injections but will get some of the benefit. Does he have you on a short cycle? or using it long term?

Thanks Shiver.

I injected the first one as soon as I came back from the clinic this evening so it’s still too early to notice any changes. I ended up injecting it into my ass cheek after the needle didn’t want to go fully into my thigh on the first attempt :D I must have hit a muscle or something…

I will search the BB forums and see what I come up with.

I hope this stuff works because a 1-month course is going to cost me about $230!

Talons,

I’m going to take this stuff for one month then after that the doc will run blood tests. I’m not yet sure how long I’ll be using hCG though

wow, you have the coolest doctor on Earth..:)

You can use 29G Insulin pins, SubQ.

That sounds expensive. How many IU is that?

The product is called Ovitrelle (made by Serono) and each box contains 5000IU or 250mg. I need two of these boxes per week. Each box costs 10 LM in Malta which equates to $28. Expensive, it’s true…

Hi Joystick Growman,

I use HCG occassionally after I have experienced testicle shrinkage due to use of other hormones. My nuts respond well to 4 injections of 2500IU over the course of 2 weeks, but of course mine are growing back from an artificially small size so yours may not respond as well.

I pay approximately US$30 for a box of 3 vials of 5000 IU (includes 3 vials of water for mixing), but I discard half of each portion since I don’t need that much and it can’t be stored well once disolved.

It is important to note that although you may experience elevated levels of testosterone due to more active balls this will have the effect of suppressing your natural LH, and will probably experience a rebound to lower than normal testosterone production after a few weeks. Also HCG promotes the conversion of testosterone into oestrogen which is a potentially bad as it can cause side effects such as breast growth and lowered libido.

Bodybuilders will typically only take it for 2-3 weeks after a cycle of steroids, and you can be sure that if it was better to take it for longer then they would be doing so.

Personally I would rather use clomid if I wanted to boost my testicles’ action artificially (I have tried it and my balls grew nicely, not to mention shooting a massive load but it caused me to get acne on my body) but if I wanted to increase the testosterone in my body I would supplement with steroids. I have also been using Proviron recently as an anti-aromitase. This is an androgenic steroid without much anabolic effect and it has really ramped my sex drive. Since it cannot be abused for muscle gain it may be more readily available than other steroids.

LilJoe

Would it be worth having some empty vials on hand for mixing to avoid wastage?

Thanks for the input LilJoe.

I probably won’t take HCG for more than a month. In any case I will speak to my endo with regards to what I shall do after HCG treatment.

I have been taking Proviron for 4 or 5 months now. It does increase sex drive but for me the increase wasn’t substantial since I already had a good sex drive to begin with. But it helps, definitely. The doctor told me to stop taking the Proviron while I take HCG but I still have a box left. I’m not sure whether the two can be taken together but I guess it’s possible - and also how much Proviron I should take in that case. I believe Proviron is also an anti-estrogenic which might help counter any negative affects of the HCG, right?

Another thing: when I was injecting the HCG solution yesterday, some of it overflowed out of the needle hole in my skin. Should I insert the needle deeper or maybe I just injected it too quickly? Any tips?

Thanks

Shiver,

Since HCG is a protein it can break down more easily than most medicines, not to mention the risk of mould or bacterial infection so I don’t think it is worth it to try to save the leftover solution. The reason for using half a 5000IU vial is because I can only get it in 1000 or 5000 and the price is the same.

Growman,

Proviron is not supposed to shut down testicular function so in theory it should be fine to take them together. I think that proviron has actually caused some ball growth for me although I don’t know the reason for this. Personally I wouldn’t bother with HCG if my balls were at their normal size since you will have to pay the piper later and I think you will experience more of a drop-off from stopping the proviron than the boost from using HCG. If you want to carry on with the proviron just keep taking the same dosage.

When injecting HCG you should not go too deep because it is supposed to be subcutaneous not intramuscular. If you experience leakage try using an insulin syringe like UlcasterDropout suggested - the smaller hole left should prevent anything leaking out, and you won’t feel as much pain from the needle. I hit a small nerve in my leg once and it caused numbness down my whole leg but the insulin needle is unlikely to pierce anything rather it will just push the nerve to the side.

Out of interest, why do you want to increase your testosterone if your sex drive is high to begin with? If you want to gain muscle mass there are easier ways to do it so I am curious.

It’s bedtime now here in the Far-East

LilJoe

Something else you can try is to stretch the skin at the inject site before you put the needle in, then afterwards when you relax it there will be a less direct route for it to leak out. Even with 31g needles I’ve had leaks, but it’s only a small amount. Perhaps feeding the plunger in more slowly to allow it to dissipate more will reduce the back pressure a little, though I haven’t done sub-Q personally, only IM.

Can I increase my balls size with hcg? Or is clomid better fot that? And how much I should take?

I don’t have very big balls and I wanted to try hcq or clomid? I have never used steroids.

My testosterone levels is 14 nmol/l for scale (7-34).

And is this dosage working and safe? Someone posted this earlier:

Hcg - 5000 IU ed FOR 7 DAYS
Clomid - 200 MG DAY ONE IN 4 DOSES AND 50 MG/DAY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS
ADD Nolvadex AT 20 MG/DAY AS hcg WILL CAUSE A RISE IN ESTROGEN AS WELL

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