conclusion to 4derm?

theres no way im can read 56 pages of forum posted replies
i read a bunch and i was unable to come to a conclusion

i would like to hear from the people that were successful and tell me how long did it take to gain, and if it is permanent and such
thanks

Here is something that is a must-read, particularly this part.

I suggest you read through the thread. Yes, it is long. Oh well.

Imo, the conclusion is that the only person it worked for is Jones. There are not enough lab mice experimenting with this because you are playing with testosterone; therefore, I will not try to obtain this cream. Once you’re testosterone levels go up, then estrogen will go way up. You’ll start to develop gynocomastia (bitch tits). I wouldn’t fool around.

Darnit