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Originally posted by jelqking
Ebon, just face it you too got sucked in and you too lost your money.
First off, I didn’t pay $50+ for each bottle, I paid about $8 per bottle, so no I wouldn’t say I lost any money. Second, I had a measurable increase in girth and length when taking pills even though I only used them as aphrodisiacs (that is, I didn’t use them consistently).
I’m not saying that the pills by themselves will cause permanent gains, although the possibility is there, I’m saying they will cause larger erections (and to a certain degree, more flaccid size) because of the properties of an erection. Let’s review a statement of yours:
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Originally posted by jelqking
What do you think happens when you get an erection, your penis fills with blood to fill the spaces, so if we go by your theory a simple erection would be a PE exercise. Jelqing or squeezing TRAPS blood and expands the cells larger, a little blood flow isnt going to enlarge your penis.
What I think happens when you get an erection is this. When flaccid, the smooth muscle of the penis is “flexed” (it has tonus) preventing blood from entering the penis. Nervous system signals release certain chemicals (no need to get too technical), among them NO2, which causes the smooth muscle tissue to relax thus allowing inflow of blood into the lacunar spaces of the corpora cavernosa. This causes the tunica albuginea to expand length- and width-wise which, while in effect giving the erection its “shape”, also constricts the outflow of blood, essentially trapping it in the penis. (That was my “simple” theory of erection, I have a more long-winded one but it’s a little more technical.)
Now, Arginine works only by increasing the pre-cursor material for NO2 while any proper penis pill will also work on the levels of excitation through effects on the autonomic nervous system and the increase in certain hormones (most prominent, testosterone). That means that you get better, and yes, larger erections. At least if you’re over 20 and your natural testosterone levels are on the downhill slide.
So, your reasoning isn’t exactly sound here (neither is Revolution’s by the way). Jelqing and trapping aim to engorge the penis with blood which will cause the erectile tissues to expand and accept more blood. Now, that means that more blood in the penis will make it bigger. If you have a larger supply of blood going into the penis, the possible engorgement is larger and therefore there is a higher possibility of enlargement of the erectile tissues.
2010-01-09: BPEL: 19,7cm [7.75"] EG: 15,0 cm [5.9"]
2010-04-24: BPEL: 20,4cm [8.0"] EG: [???]