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Tadalafil no longer showing on the Yisabio site, any other places that are worth trying that anyone has successfully bought from and received the item in the UK?


Basil

Originally Posted by panckage
Several alibababa sellers still sell it. It think they usually don’t deal with smaller quantities so you may have to say you want to purchase a sample to get the amount down
Top Grade Tadalafil Powder For High Effectiveness - Alibaba.com


I found several Chinese places that had FREE SAMPLES, but that was for electronics :D

Ask, all they can say is NO! Or Yes, maybe? ;)


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Thanks both but having dealt with Alibaba and having been scammed all 3 times I’ve tried my very best not to go to them any more. Even the free sample I was offered came with a $50 delivery charge which was supposedly seized by customs but I doubt was ever sent. This is the problem, they have a good excuse for not sending it, just have to say it was seized.


Basil

Originally Posted by gearzz
You can buy the generic cheap here http://www.directmedsshop.com


That place is high for generic meds! Go here and compare. No prescription required and both times I ordered I picked the $10 shipping and the order arrived within 2 weeks. Through customs and all. Do not select $25 shipping as you will probably receive the package in the same timeframe regardless. Last December I got 60 40mg Tadarise (generic cialis) for about $70 and they work great lasting 5 days. You can even cut them in half or quarters. Mine has lasted almost a year and I still hav 8 left. 2 weeks ago I ordered 60 100mg sidenafil (viagara) and 60 40mg Tadasoft (cialis) for a total of $110. Shipping included. Thanks to Whitenoise for the hookup..

http://safemedp … om/buy/tadarise


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Last edited by SoLong : 10-27-2016 at .

Thanks but I’m after the powder which works out a lot cheaper. I want the powder btw so I can make the spray which when placed under the tongue works faster and lasts longer as well as being more potent (or so I’ve heard). I did have some before from kits n more but they seem to have gone now, I did find a few pages on them but as soon as you try and order every single item is out of stock.


Basil

Originally Posted by basil1492

Thanks but I’m after the powder which works out a lot cheaper. I want the powder btw so I can make the spray which when placed under the tongue works faster and lasts longer as well as being more potent (or so I’ve heard). I did have some before from kits n more but they seem to have gone now, I did find a few pages on them but as soon as you try and order every single item is out of stock.

Sorry Basil but I was only responding to Gearzz stating that the directmeds site was a cheap place to get generics. When comparing to safemedpills.com its expensive. I didn’t see your question about the powder prior to responding but for the record I didn’t see the powder on either site. Good luck and if you find ANYTHING more potent that the 100mg Sildenafil from safemedpills.com then I wouldn’t even take it. I took half last night and woke up with a raging hard-on twice. The first time I woke my wife up and used it.. lol.. the second time was like 2 hours later and it was so hard that it hurt so i’ll break it to 1/4 next time. I used to like the Cialis better but this was the best Viagra that I ever tried, better than the real Viagra prescribed by the VA. Good luck. By the way I have no commercial interest in safemedpills.com I’m just trying to share the source as Whitenoise did for me.


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Originally Posted by basil1492
Thanks both but having dealt with Alibaba and having been scammed all 3 times I’ve tried my very best not to go to them any more. Even the free sample I was offered came with a $50 delivery charge which was supposedly seized by customs but I doubt was ever sent. This is the problem, they have a good excuse for not sending it, just have to say it was seized.

I’ve also been evaluating alibaba option, but not tried it as yet - main reason being fear of scammy sellers. I was hoping that Trade Assurance feature of Alibaba could be of help in this regard.
https://tradeas surance.alibaba … r_advertise.htm

"Seized by customs" question could also be solved by getting the package sent via a trackable postal service. Track record should show where the package is at the moment.

For trade assurance scheme to work, you have to buy from a trade assurance program member of alibaba. I’ve sifted through all "trade assured" tadalafil suppliers a month ago, and come up with this short list:


Zhengzhou Debao Fine Chemical Co. ; $344-426/kg ; min order 10gr ; 600kg/mo production ; response time:>72h ; response rate:%35,2 ; 5 yrs gold member


Xian Xuhuang Bio-Tech Co. ; 1 yr gold member ; 1-1000$/gr ; min order 10 gr ; 50kg/mo production ; response time:>72h ; response rate:%66,3


Huaian Chenhui Chemical Co. ; 5 yrs gold member ; 1-100$/gr ; min order 10 gr ; 50kg/mo production ; response time:>72h ; response rate:%62,2


Shandong Sunrise Technology Co. ; 2 yrs gold member ; 1-1000$/gr ; min order 1 gr ; 1000kg/mo production ; response time:<24h ; response rate:%97,5

Below 3 are the same seller with multiple alibaba entries:



Xi’an Sgonek Biological Technology Co. ; 1 yr gold member ; 1-1000$/gr ; min order 5gr ; 1 kg/mo production ; response time:24-48h ; response rate:%90,9 (Beware: Amino Tadalafil)

Beware of various modifications of tadalafil, particularly the so called "intermediate" tadalafil. Intermediate is not even modified tadalafil. It is an intermediate raw material to synthesize the final product. It’s probably ineffective to consume as-is, and might possibly be poisonous.
Example:

On the other hand, amino tadalafil is OK as far as I know. Amino is a harmless minor modification to the original tadalafil just in order to alleviate some patent problems. I don’t know how potent it is though (guess it’s same as plain tadalafil).

Tadalafil (C22H19N3O4) CAS number: 171596-29-5
Amino Tadalafil (C21H18N4O4) CAS number: 385769-84-6

These are my supplier research results with no experience. Anyone sharing his actual experience (good or bad) will be appreciated.

Above list also excludes the suppliers with >20g minimum order.

No problem SoLong. Good list Temmuz, have you tried any yet? Xi’an Sgonek looks the best bet but every one of these only take western union or direct payment from bank/moneygram. This link shows that almost all that do this are fakes. Bank Indicate Fraud: Western Union, MoneyGram & Bank Wire Transfer – FraudsWatch.com It makes it difficult to trust these people. The prices arent bad but the delivery cost is so all in all you’re risking $100+ usually so its a lot to gamble for something with little chance of getting here. I actually lookws at alibaba for ingredients for trimix too, same risk. Shame one company doesnt do all the stuff needed and a few on here could share the risk and delivery cost.


Basil

Basil I haven’t tried any yet but soon I will have to. With trade assurance program, you don’t pay directly to the seller, instead you pay to alibaba’s account and upon your approval, alibaba passes your payment to the seller. So this scheme provides some sort of protection against fraud. My main problem is, how to test the received material. A test kit only reveals if it’s real tadalafil or not - it doesn’t say anything about purity. My plan is to bluff the sellers by asking if it’s okay to pay through alibaba (via trade assurance option) and then give them a hint that I’m willing to deny the payment if lab tests reveals <%80 purity. That may make them more reluctant to try me. By the way I won’t do any lab tests honestly - it’s just a bluff. Their response may also give me some hint about their business ways.

Shame that we must go to such extents just in order to get 10gr of decent tadalafil. Hey we’re not junkies!? :)

Since -as far as I know- sildenafil’s patent timed out in some countries but tadalafil’s patent still holds globally, one of my concerns is that they might be tempted to send sildenafil instead. (Though it’s way better than receiving starch or something)

As for which seller looks more promising, I have mixed ideas about Xi’an Sgonek:

1) They have multiple entries for the same product, which I understand as a gimmick, and which doesn’t get along with my view of honesty.
2) Their monthly production capacity is just 1 kg. I’m afraid they may be a very small business, which increases their fraud chances.

On the other hand, Xi’an Sgonek sells amino-tadalafil instad of plain tadalafil, which -while seemingly a minus- may be a plus for them, because this might free them from patent issues so they would have less incentive for fraud. I think the main incentive for fraud is the patent issues (not the production cost). So a plain tadalafil supplier may be tended to send -patent expired- sildenafil instead, but an amino-tadalafil supplier would have no reason to do the same.

Actually my favorite happens to be Zhengzhou Debao for their 5 years of alibaba gold membership and their 600kg/mo production capacity (so is their claim).

Anyway I’ll ask for quotation to all the suppliers in the list and hint them all about alibaba trade assurance option and my phony lab test by the way. And then make a final decision according to their response.

I nearly forgot one important criterium to ask: They must also accept to send via a cheap (<$20) and trackable postal service.

This is my plan of action fwiw.

Sounds like a good plan Temmuz, please keep me updated either on this thread or via PM. I honestly think the chances of getting postage for under 20 is unlikely though, none have offered delivery for under 40 yet for me from anywhere.


Basil

A note about shipping charges.

Here is sample bicycle mini tail light from China (aliexpress):

Item Price: $1.92
Package properties: 30gr, 10x10x1 cm (more or less similar to 10 gr tadalafil packaging)

Shipping Options to Turkey (but it should be similar for EU or US):
Unregistered surface mail (29-50 days, untrackable): Free
Registered air mail (24-37 days, trackable): $1.21
EMS (18-33 days, trackable): $50.20

That is, the cost of surface shipping for them must be in the cents - not even a dollar. And even $5 for shipping 10 gr of tadalafil is a steep price. So, if a seller asks more than $5 for registered trackable air mail shipping, then only one scenario pops up in my mind - a scam.

Why? Even if you pay through trade assurance, then reject the trade and deny payment, they may (or may not?) keep the steep shipping price, which costed them probably under a dollar. I call it “shipping scam”. Any seller with more than $5 shipping cost for surface mail should automatically raise the scam warning alarm, I think.

To be on the safe grounds, it might be wise to include shipping in the “trade assured” total, that is, if you deny payment you should be able to get all your money back - not just the item price. I don’t know alibaba trade assurance details but this detail can be important.

Just thinking aloud and hoping to inspire others for alternative / better solutions. Any ideas?

Have to admit I have no ideas on this at all. If I knew of a safe way or even one I think would have over a 50% chance of me getting the item I’d give it a go but every time I get into this they offer only the options that seem to most to be for scams, ie western union etc. The last time I tried I had this back (below) which gives you an idea of why I’m very very wary

"Here is price tadalafil :
10g of tadalafil : usd 25
Shipping fee : usd 40
Total : usd 65
Payment method : western union , money gram , bank transfer . May I know which will you take?”


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