SARMS and PE

I will start this thread by saying that I am by no means an expert, but rather just reporting my results thus far.

I am currently in my third week of an 8 week cycle of Ostarine and Cardarine. After the first 3 days I noticed my flacid hang was much larger in mornings until about lunch time. Since then it has continued to be larger for longer every day. I am now around 80% as big flacid as erect. I am also slightly longer (I attribute this to 10lbs weight loss) and noticeably thicker than before I started the cycle. I have not measured girth yet to confirm this but it certainly feels that way. I will refrain from stating the brands I’m using so as not to sound like a marketer but I highly recommend trying an Ostarine Cardarine stack. I will say I started it with no expectations for PE only in the gym. Very pleasant surprise!

If anyone else has tried SARMs of any sort and seen results please post about them here. I’m going to start carefully monitoring my results while on and off cycle.

Thanks for sharing this with us.

Ostarine supplementation requires hypercaloric diet.

Check?

No, when used at maintenance calories it is great for burning fat and building muscle. It can be used either for “recomp” or bulking or when stacked with Cardarine prevents atrophy during a cut cycle. I’m currently stacking the two together and have dropped 10lbs in 2weeks in addition to that I’ve been watching fat peel off. According to the electric resistance test I’m down 9% body fat in the same period all while putting up new PRs in the gym.

Understood, thanks for the explanation.

Did you do any PE?

Yes I have been doing PE for years. I have not changed my routine since starting the supplements. I have always been a grower so this is a very substantial difference. I plan to take measurements at the end of my cycle 5 weeks from now. Just for full disclosure my routine is basically an advanced newbie routine. I also pump 3-4 times a week. As I said nothing that would have caused this change and certainly not so rapidly. I don’t know if it’s all due to the fat loss or if the SARMs have this effect. Either way I hope it’s permanent.

Are you doing physical exercises in addition to the supplements ?

Yes, I lift heavy 3 days a week light 2 days a week and cardio 2 days a week. I have lifted almost every day for a couple years now but diet has been poor. I started cleaning my diet up about 3 months ago and have lost some weight but when I started the stack I’m on now I started dropping fat like crazy. It takes about a week to start really working but boy does it work. I’m also sleeping better and have way more energy for the gym and pretty much anything else. Rock hard erections and no signs of suppression so far. I’m hoping others can chime in with their experience on various SARMs in relation to PE.

Fat loss could lead to a lot of hormonal changes, diet changes too but it may take some time. It’s possible Ostarine and the rest only helped because of the weight loss. Improved blood flow should be a consequence of all you’ve done.

That was my line of thinking, I really want to know if anyone else here has tried it. If my results are typical then everyone here should give it a shot ha. If it’s just from my working out then I want people to see yet another example of why they should hit the gym

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SARMS Are Not Innocuous

SARMs are absolutely not innocuous chemicals that help people to gain muscle and lose fat at an accelerated rate and that’s the end of it. GW501516/Cardarine was abandoned for clinical development in 2007 because at least three published/presented studies using animal testing models revealed it rapidly caused cancer in multiple organs (stomach, liver, tongue, skin, bladder, ovaries, womb and testes) of test animals it was administered to.

The development of Andarine (S-4) as a prescription drug was also halted because the use of this compound caused serious side effects (disturbances in vision). There are dozens and dozens of such instances being documented and discussed on the internet by people who bought Andarine/S-4 and used it if you are so inclined to Google such.

And let’s not parse words here, OK? SARM equals Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator. This does not equate with “OK, great so these drugs have absolutely zero androgenic and masculinizing potential or side effects.” Many of them surely do and the likelihood of encountering such effects by the user probably increases in a way related to the dosage ingested. And I would bet the likelihood of such masculinizing effects would be much more visible in female users as opposed to male users so these drugs are potentially just awful in my opinion for women users.

Especially awful in women who may be pregnant or nursing.

Likely, because of the wide-spread and illegal sale of SARM-laced Dietary Supplements I bet that eventually we will see some federal crackdown on this class of drug and when some of them finally do obtain regulatory approval for sale as prescription drugs, look for them to be lumped into Schedule C-III with all the anabolic steroids by the DEA. And I also suspect that some of the larger peddlers of these adulterated Dietary Supplements will end up looking eye-to-eye with some aggressive federal law enforcement agencies armed with search and/or arrest warrants in the not-to-distant future.

SARMs being sold as Dietary Supplements will not end well for the consumer, the sellers, the manufacturers or the industry as a whole

I’m not going to say there is zero chance of side effects bit I will say that the studies on Cardarine that showed an increase in cancer risk were using doses equivalent to 1000 times the normal dose and over an extremely long period. I encourage anyone considering these substances to do their own research.

10-4….I’m not trying to be the paranoid guy. In fact I’ve been tossing around the idea of sarms for months now, along with melantonan 2, but these are compounds that drastically changes the metabolism among other things and long term side effects could be very bad.

Ymmv.

I’m very open to new information if the stuff is dangerous I want to avoid it ha. That being said I’ve researched for months to make my decision. I pulled the actual studies and read their findings and methodology. There are certain SARMs like S-4 that should be avoided like the plague but Ostarine and Cardarine haven’t shown side effects of any sort in a significant portion of the population when properly dosed and cycled. If I have sides of any sort I will be the first to advocate against their use. Until then I’m loving my results so far.

10-4, I get it and the results are great, glad it’s working for you.

How long have sarms been around? I just heard about them last year. So all of the studies and what not are fairly new. Nobody knows the long term effects.

A lot of people thought there was no harm in smoking either, until the long term effects started to show up.

That’s all I’m saying.

Believe me, I’m on the fence myself. One day I’m yay and the next I’m nay.

Keep us posted.