The Perfect 4AD Carrier

Shiver wrote, “Gel #3 might be a little bit harsh for delicate tissues.”

Do you mean harsh to the skin or the inner tissues? They claim that #3 totally localizes the PH to the applied area. Isn’t this exactly what we are looking for?

It will burn the sensitive penile skin. Probably leave the skin discolored and less sensitive than before.

This is only my opinion but I think it is also the opinion of those at Avant as well.

If I buy testosterone on the internet, does it have a transdermal carrier or does it just naturally absorb into the penile tissue to get the desired effect?

Androgel uses IPM, this is a systematic delivery method and isn’t as harsh as something like gel #3.

Yeah I meant harsh on the skin surface - that it might sting, irritate or inflame. It might be bearable though, I don’t know.

I’ve not seen any claims that it is totally local. Par himself in a thread said that he didn’t claim that “all, or even most” or the active would be local. It’s just more so than other carriers. I believe 100% locality is an impossible absolute. If they claimed 40-50% then I think that might be believable. I would imagine that the application area would influence the ‘localness’ of the active depending on its construction.

Transdermal simply means through or ‘by way of’ the skin. It’s not an indication of systemic or local action. All the carriers I’ve ever seen are either systemic, or local and systemic.

As Cya mentioned, Androgel is in IPM, but if you buy a generic/compounded formula, it may not be in IPM. I had one a few years back that was yellowy with the consistancy not dissimilar to vaseline. I don’t know what carrier that was.

Shiver,

I have ordered some testosterone over the net. When it comes should I mix it with the other product so it will be absorbed properly.

I will wait a few days to start it. Then I am thinking I will do every other day like Dr. Reichter and see what happens, if anything. What do you think of my plan?

I’m not qualified to answer, but I if were me then I would follow Reichers plan for a month or two since he and a few others have tried this and claim good results.

Personally, I think that since Test is such a general purpose hormone (by that I mean a pro-hormone to other hormones), I would consider taking an anti-Estrogen. Maybe nothing as powerful as arimidex due to the very low dosage you’ll be using, but maybe something like 6-Oxo, as the consensus is that E is highly counter productive. I suspect (but do not know) that the hormone ratios are a significant factor, not just the levels themselves.

AndroJelq may wish to chime in on this one, as I believe he has some real world experience in this matter.

Has anyone tried it with the #3 gel? I think it would increase the chances of it working, unless it burns to bad.

Got my internet testosterone today in a squirt on injector tube of cream. Put on a few squirts of the “other product” to increase absorption into my rod. Will try every other day for a while. Today was the first day. I am ready to grow. I will keep up moderate PE routine. Had a good workout today. Will keep you guys posted if anything big happens.

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