Originally Posted by avocet8
I’m not arguing with you at all, KP, only pointing out that that it is a stretch to say that supplements can turn all ED around.By “rare cases” (above) I mean guys who have ED which cannot be traced to any particular organic cause and whose ED is not severe. Many of us suffer from Performance Anxiety, for example, which is psychological. If ginkgo helps a guy to feel more randy and helps him over that, terrific. And, if ginkgo lessens somewhat, temporarily, the severity of a man’s diabetic ED, terrific. But in the many cases of organic ED - arterial insufficiency, venous leakage, nerve damage, medication damage, etc., etc., supplements help some so long as you take them.
(Psycologiacal ED can be treated with Golden root or Gensing. Provided the cause is due to depression. I have a seperate thread on Gensing and golden root.)
On the other hand, there is ample evidence being published that some regimented and continuous programs of ED drugs can alter endothelial cell efficiency in a positive and permanent way. In some cases. But the reality is that when we have severe ED we are all bring many different organic issues to the ED table. Supplements do not address the base cause of the ED and remove it; but some of them can help improve the situation.
(Yes, I know I think viagra is great and as the tweek out the bugs and inprove on it it may replace all blood pressure medications as well.
Viagra combined with a natural supplement like ginkgo would be very detremental to ED.)
TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) is effective only in those (3 percent of all with ED) who require it. And, TRT can be a sort of bumpy road for some patients: high function after it kicks in it followed by lows of energy levels and mood when it wears off. Still, it’s a great therapy, when appropriate and well-supervised.
I know, it can be disapointing but also hypothyroid disease is a hidden if not major contributor to ED. Thyroid function test do not always indicate there is a problem when indeed there could be.
Do you have any other information to add it would be very useful.