2 Years Of No Growth!

BACKGROUND:

I joined TP two years ago when I was 18 years old. My starting measurements were (they still are…):
NBP: 15.5 cm (6.10 inches).
BP: 17.8 cm (7 inches).
MEG: 13 cm (5.11 inches).
BEG: 11.5 cm (4.5 inches). (YES, 1.5 cm thinnier than my thickest part!).
FL: 9 cm (3.5 inches).

FIRST YEAR IN PE:

I gotta be honest here, my first year in PE was such a waste of time due my lack of awareness towards PI’s. I remember my lose of morning woods and I was constantly overtraining. Of course I constantly posted my lack of progress in the Spanish forums and they suggested me to increase intensity in my routine, I did but nothing worked.

5 on 2 off
.- 5 Months or so into Newbie Routine.
.- The rest of that year I incorporate Horses 440 and V-stretches.

SECOND YEAR:

At this time I’ve come across to TGC theory and different approaches towards PE. I used to read the forum posts a lot! My routines were:

5 on 2 off
.- 2 months or so of 5 minutes V-stretches A-stretches.
.- 4 months of newbie routine.
.- 3 months of pumping routine.
.- A few months of decon breaks.

TODAY:
1 on 1 off
Nowdays I’ve come across that any sort of static stretch or jelquing drives me to overtraining. Last week I did 5 minutes of manual stretching with a light pull force and I still lost my morning woods… I don’t know what to do. It is not about not training hard enough, I just overtrain so easily! :(

PLS HELP GUYS!

Are you using constant heat?

Two years, no growth and still PEing,

You are big man!!!

Don’t give up, why don’t you try hanging, pumping, and nofap ( it is good for erections)???

Always under hot water, soooo Yeah

My desires for a bigger unit are stronger than my failure! (who doesnt want a bigger penis?)

I tried hanging a while ago but my PI’s were bad!

I’m doing Angion Method for EQ…

Your penis isn’t reacting nicely to stretching.

An idea would be to try a routine without stretching. Now that you said hanging wrecked your PI, could be a confirmation that stretching based exercises is off the table.

Don’t be affraid of knocking down the stretches, thinking that you could end up without any length gains. I’ve gained length, more than I wish for and stretching were very scarce in my carrer.

Hi man. Speak spanish?

Anyway, I think my experience was somewhat similar to yours.
I think some of the popular understanding like “overtraining” or “bad physiological indicators” or “penis indicators”, can be misleading you.

As example, just because you are losing hardness in your erections do not necessarily mean that the effects of the workout are not working.
If you are hanging and you lose hardness strength, may be because of the turtling, inflammation of tunica, etc, which are things you expect to happen when hitting tunica really hard.
In same way, taking days off when you could benefit from daily stretch, is completely counterproductive. Things like extenders operate in a constant basis, and taking days off is optional.

So having had a similar time like you when I was jelqing and stretching to no results month after month, makes me think you might benefit from what I did.

If I had already spent 2 years, this time I would spend money, buy an extender. I have 2, one vacuum based and one noose based. That allow me to switch from one to the other to rest the different tissue that can be damaged from extensive use, without halting the treatment.
Then I would select the most comfortable one, tipicaly the vacuum extender, and aim to 8-12 hours a day with a tension around 400-500 grams to start with.
There is a threshold of tension that will cause your penis to trigger defense mode and retract. In my case it´s around 900grams, so I currently extend at 600-800 grams.

This alone I think gave me 1 millimetre for each 70 hours or so.
However it´s possible that the extension doesn’t immediately translate to erect length because having a 1 millimetre longer septum and shaft doesn’t mean your erectile chambers can immediately be that millimetre long when erect because that millimetre translated in volume is a lot of expansion to the erectile tissue, so a bit of pumping is beneficial AFTER the extension has made its miracle. So it´s best to start extending and incorporate pump 2 or 3 months after.. Few sessions are enough. Clamping would do the trick too, and you´ll gain girth incredibly easy if the shaft has undergone lot of longitudinal extension.

Many people say extender don’t give girth and its true, but some people report girth gain , in my opinion because of what I just explained. It´s my case too. I gained 1 millimetre in each clamping session til I stopped because I felt after each clamp session I wasted 2 days of extending , since extending with a swollen shaft is less productive I think.

In last month I gained half centimetre girth doing nothing but extender and 1 pump session.. This certainly puzzled me.. And after the pumping session again, lost almost a week of extending because my shaft was screwed, swollen, prone to erection and was nearly impossible to extend.

Well that´s my experience.
Hanging damaged my blood vessels, skin, and sensitivity beyond what I consider acceptable side effects.. I completely would tell you to stay away from that.. Thrombosis, balanitis, skin striations.. Ugly penis.
Other techniques like hand stretch and jelq only gave me temporary gains, or nothing in the long run.. I used to measure gains when I was swollen and I fooled myself with that..

But in the last 10 months I gained half inch and it´s solid cock. Not much.. 1.2 millimetre a month but that´s because I had a frenulectomy done and tried hanging and other experiments that went wrong..
So this is my advice.

Let me know if I can help in anything else.

I wanted to say that the fact that you don’t see immediate effects, can mean you can have a growth burst the next month, or similar non linear experience. In other words the treatment is working even if you don’t see growth a couple weeks in a row. Here your tenacity will shine.

Also one fun thing that can keep you motivated is create some log, in text and graph, or even drawing, that help you set doable immediate goals, log your measurements, hours, and observations.
In my case, I was surprised to find a drawing I did of my extender configuration exactly how I used it a year ago, with annotations of stretched penis length, tension, rods length, etc, is a configuration I can´t use now because simply my shaft is longer and the screws no longer allow me to extend in that configuration.

That will prove you the progress is real and not a dubious difference in how you measure or such things that once had me completely confused and skeptic.

Almost all exercises to gain length are stretched-based and I really want some length gains :( BTW I also get really harmed by doing jelquing (my base is thin, dunno if that’s the cause…). Soo doing even 25 wet jelqs == Bad PI’s.

I just bought some clamps in amazon, at the end of the month I’ll be clamping..

What routines did you do that gave you good gains in length?

You’re big already. Why bother? PE DOES NOT WORK. Notice the lack of pictures of progress. I’m convinced the dudes who made this site are well endowed who get off on knowing that other guys are trying to be like them.

I’m also have been stalled like OP, but there are a lot of threads with before-after pics and measuring pics.

Comparative pics 2015-2018

This is from my thread, and PE worked for me.

Man your gains are incredible.. Those techniques worked for me too in the beginning, but not to a even close extent. I gained maybe 1 cm max.
I didn’t measure properly or kept a proper log. GF told me YES it grew, and ruler too, but later I noticed I fooled myself obtaining fake gains I achieved by tilting the hips more and more and stabbing my own pubes more and more with the ruler..

However years after I´ve been tracking my gains more scientifically and trying new techniques and after a year trying new things. I guarantee PE works too.

I think I´ve gained in total less than 2 cm though.
From 18.5 or so, to 20.5 BP
Girth also. From 13.2 to 14.5 which is easier to do

The best confirmation PE worked for my last year is the extender configuration I used when I started, is not even doable now. It simply won’t extend me with those ammount of rods. That means the shaft is longer without any slight trace of doubt.

I do speak Spanish :)

About the Xtender, I dunno man, light stretches give me bad PI’s. Do you think a Xtender would give better results? I can imagine being sore all day by it.

My last bet to grow is the clamp, I’ll receive it next monday!

I attribute the majority of my length gains to jelqing. Pumping second since I had some length on routines with pumping.

Hombre, entonces ya no sé que decirte.
Eres grande no te rindas, algún día esos esfuerzos se traducirán en crecimiento, ya lo verás. Tan solo sigue probando, se que algún día encontrarás el método que te funcione, haz ejercicios suaves y no intensos y si ves off positivos, sigue avanzando