Are there any controlled studies for PE

I don’t doubt that PE works. However, if you ever search for PE studies, or any form of proof on google, they usually have some urologist saying that it is a scam. Why is this? I know Thunder’s Place has done experiments, but I am wondering why there are no controlled studies.. The kind where people actually are put into groups and pre and post measured using drugs to induce erections. Also, why hasn’t PE been discussed more on mainstream television? I find it strange that something that totally inundates the search engines, and even emails, does not find it’s way on the television; other than extenze.

1 - No money can be made from it. The best you can do is have a pay site with videos or a pdf e-book or a normal bookstore book, which is minimal in terms of making money off it. Especially when you have somewhere like Thunders which takes donations, but gives all the same info for free. I would go as far as to say Thunders is even better then any of those things because you are learning from people’s experiences and sharing your own. This is invaluable when it’s something that like you said, doesn’t get talked about on TV or other types of media.

2 - It takes alot of hard work and is not an “easy fix” which is what people want in today’s society. Pec implants, butt implants, boob implants, liposuction, these are the things people want. The quick easy fix that they “know” will work. Some people here have posted their penis surgery stories, some have really regretted it and done damage to their unit for no gain. But they were still more willing to try this ahead of doing manual exercises, because it’s seen as quick and easy.

3 - Penis size is taboo to talk about for some people. Even for someone who considers themself large can lie and exaggerate their size, or be scared to talk about it and be shy in the change rooms. If “large cocked” dudes feel this way, how do you think Mr 4 incher feels? Alot of men don’t want to talk about their penis fullstop.

4 - There is a myth that size doesn’t matter. And also that it cannot be enlarged. I don’t know where it started, I don’t know why. This forum breaks the myth. I can imagine that it’s easier for alot of people to accept that nothing can be done and just get on with their lives and accept themselves for who they are. I don’t know about this one to be honest, but it’s what the average person on the street believes. Because it’s the common reply to “I have a small penis what can I do about it”.

Those are the best 4 reasons I can think of. It’s a good question, but also be careful what you wish for. If everyone did PE, the average size would climb and we would need to stretch our dicks even more to become above average. :D

Good reply.

A controlled study is expensive. Medical studies are mostly financied by pharmaceutical enterprises or Governements. The first have no interests in PE; they have interest in discovering substances that could augment penis size or improve erections, but not in making you know that you can make your penis bigger with just your hands. Governement often pay studies related to general health, something that could be useful to push down in some way public costs for illness or diseases - again, no interest in PE.

I’m glad there are no studies and mainstream attention for PE. It’s like our little (or rather BIG) secret. I’m not telling any of my friends about it, won’t tell my wife (when I get married) about it, no one. This will be something only my Thunders family will know about. :)

Well said marinera. I could only imagine the reaction Obama would get when he takes over soon, if he said one of my first goals is getting funding for research in penis enlargement. In terms of health issues it’s at the bottom of the list (in the big picture).

Actually, just remembered the Penn and Teller’s : BS TV show did a thing on it does that count as a study? lol I remember they got a few guys to try stretching, penis pump, pills and after a month all 4 had no gains. The episode might be on youtube. The stretching guy did jelqs but I don’t believe that he believed it would work going into it, if he read this forum beforehand he might of had a better outcome. Or maybe he was just a hardgainer.

If Thunder had your same attitude this place was never born, headstrong.

Wondering a campaign focused on PE topic. Obama:”Poor men can’t buy extenders and lubricants, so thay have a smaller penis: we have to help them.” - McCain: “Wasp’ hancestors worked hard to earn money and if they have a bigger weapon then average this is on their right!” or something :D .

Maybe Penn and Teller are just part of the PE conspiracy! It all makes sense now!

I just got goosebumps.

Well I guess you’re right, lucky for all of us that he didn’t have that attitude! :D

Yeah. It’s true. I work with a guy who asked me if I thought those drugs worked. I told him no and then told him about the exercises. A week later he was asking about the pils, again. He would rather chase the dream of the instant fix pill rather than putrsue the reality of exercise.

!!! I’ve actually just realised how much I’ve been taking this site for granted. When I first discovered it I thought that the whole idea was wishful thinking, and that an improvement in EQ could be made at best.

Slowly but surely I began to see results, but at the same time began to forget the pure hope and longing I once had for a bigger penis. Here I am now 1.5 x 0.5 bigger than I was! Thanks Thunder, I’ve decided that I am definately going to give a decent donation sometime in the future (some people would pay ££££’s for this information if they new it worked).

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Doctors would have a pretty miserable life if PE was mainstream. Hundreds of patients at the door asking all the questions us newbies ask in this forum. They already have enough issues to solve. I’m sure there will be many guys going to the doctor with stuff like “I have a 5 degree curve and I feel terrible, please help me!”. PE is not a “do this and that will happen” thing. I’m still searching for something that works for me. It’s not a real necessity, rather it’s an ambition.

A cure for cancer and for HIV would be more urgent. Regarding PE, you can look at Thunder’s Place as a huge, vast and complex study.

Like CubanB said, since there’s no money to be made, you won’t see any studies. Obviously, all you’ll ever read is it doesn’t work and how dangerous it can be. The funny thing about the danger part is, if you do decide to have penis enlargement surgery, it’s my understanding that they recommend you stretch your penis after surgery. I guess it’s only dangerous to stretch your penis if you don’t spend the money on the surgery.