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Average BPEL and EG done by web site probably you're not that small as you though

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Originally Posted by miami-cock
Once again a survey says asians tend to be smaller and blacks tend to be bigger…


Dude it’s an average and it’s not meant to be taken as a whole for everyone of that race.

Say you took 1000 people of each race.Of those 1000 how do we know what % percentage are what size?

For the black average they could have had 800 men with 8x6 units and asians may have had 800 men with 5x4 units.
Now if it was the other way around asians would have a larger average then black men.

These averages need to be taken with a grain of salt because it’s not the average of the entire male population of this planet.


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Originally Posted by retention head
About 6.3" BPEL seems to keep appearing in the larger self measured studies; Kinsey is close (assuming measured from the side which can be close to BP), sizesurvey.com , Thunders’ database, jackinworld.

Assume a relatively small fat pad (<0.5") for college guys and this correlates nicely with lifestyles , if they measured NBP. Although it does seem a little higher than many of the other non self-measured studies that Para-Goomba is compiling .

Yes, most guys who have looked at all the studies agree that the Thunder’s Place average seems realistic, given that TP guys are likely to know how to absolutely maximize all possible parameters that will affect measured size (e.g., 110% erection, penis pushed down to ideal angle to maximize measurement, ruler jammed ultra-hard into pubic bone, etc.), and therefore get an extra half-inch or so more than they might in a medical study. (The Lifestyles study’s number is higher than most probably because the population was self-selected rather than random.) Perhaps the Jackinworld (or Sizesurvey) participants were also just equally expert at maximizing their measurements, but I think it’s more likely that some of them were a little deluded about their sizes. In either case, all these self-measured surveys put an upper end on the "range of averages" that might be out there — somewhere around 6.25" BPEL.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
Interesting data, but the data is skewed down a little as 15 year olds aren’t fully grown yet, particularly with circumference, I believe all the most accurate measurements have it just under 5. Although length seems to be a little longer than most surveys that have been conducted, including the 15 year olds, which kinda leads me to believe that the average size is in fact somewhere in the 6’s, not the upper 5 inch range.

Thats true but the data shows averages by age and it scales up as one might reasonably expect, with the 19 and older crowd having the largest, but still representative of the averages.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

Originally Posted by Invisible
These are the current stats:

Average = 7.0” BPEL, 5.3” EG
Median = 7.0” BPEL, 5.25” EG

As before, I removed anyone under 3” BPEL and anyone over 10” BPEL. I also replaced anyone underneath 2” EG with their girth equivalent. Only members with more than one data entry were included.

How did it go up from 6.3 to 7.0 for length? If the data truly measures starting stats there is no explanation for such a dramatic increase.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

The thing I always try to remember with these internet surveys vs real world surveys conducted by medical professionals, is “what would explain any particular real survey yielding smaller sizes?”.

I can’t find any bias that would account for this, not in the German survey (5.7BPEL) and not in the Israeli survey.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

Originally Posted by Fantom

How did it go up from 6.3 to 7.0 for length? If the data truly measures starting stats there is no explanation for such a dramatic increase.

The 6.3” is the pre-PE average and while the 7.0” is the post-PE average. This is why I said “Only members with more than one data entry were included.” This was to ensure that only members who had done some PE were included in the second average.

Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
Dude it’s an average and it’s not meant to be taken as a whole for everyone of that race.

Say you took 1000 people of each race.Of those 1000 how do we know what % percentage are what size?

For the black average they could have had 800 men with 8x6 units and asians may have had 800 men with 5x4 units.
Now if it was the other way around asians would have a larger average then black men.

These averages need to be taken with a grain of salt because it’s not the average of the entire male population of this planet.

You should take a statistics class before making this argument.


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Originally Posted by m7point0

You should take a statistics class before making this argument.

:) Why is that?


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"The significance level is usually represented by the Greek symbol, α (alpha). Popular levels of significance are 5%, 1% and 0.1%. If a test of significance gives a p-value lower than the α-level, the null hypothesis is rejected. Such results are informally referred to as ‘statistically significant’. For example, if someone argues that "there’s only one chance in a thousand this could have happened by coincidence," a 0.1% level of statistical significance is being implied. The lower the significance level, the stronger the evidence."

Statistical significance - Wikipedia

The data we’re talking about (Black vs. Asian), provided the lying patterns of the groups aren’t EXTREMELY heterogeneous, easily has a p value under 0.001%. I’m being conservative on that. It’s always impossible to prove that something is true in statistics, but this shows that that Black=Asian is NOT true with nearly absolute certainty.

I don’t understand why everyone agrees that races differ in SO many different ways (height, people, come on!) but it’s so taboo to think there’s a difference in this area.


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Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
2 thoughts, first, a lot of the so called “scientific surveys” have listed virtually no difference in penis length between white and black participants, I don’t buy this at all. This survey shows about the difference I would expect. Second, the girth is very much on the low side of what is average, I think this has a lot to do with the fact that the survey involves teenagers who are not done growing yet.

I’d now like to ask you a question. Why would someone lie about their size in an anonymous survey? It just doesn’t make sense, if anything, you would think someone would downplay what their size is to help skew the pool in a way that makes them look better compared to the average (in other words, they would under state their size).

I question the legality of such a survey using minors to do such a thing. Also I wonder if there are a lot of sexual predators that often visit jerkin world or jackin world what ever it is called. Kind of like my space any one over thirty on my space should do some growing up or well, hmmm. I’ll stop here. This is my 02 cents worth.


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Originally Posted by kingpole
I question the legality of such a survey using minors to do such a thing. Also I wonder if there are a lot of sexual predators that often visit jerkin world or jackin world what ever it is called. Kind of like my space any one over thirty on my space should do some growing up or well, hmmm. I’ll stop here. This is my 02 cents worth.

Yeah, I agree with you on that. Kind of an odd name for a website also, does seem a little strange.


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Yeah, that 11 y olds specific data creeped me out too.

So you mean my thin penis really isn’t that thin? It is average?


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