Been at it for 10 months now

I have used hot showers, hot/wet towels, a heating pad, a rice socks and my laptop to cook my sausage. The most discrete and practical has been my laptop. In fact that’s what I’m doing right now. I’m not overly concerned about the heat on my balls reducing my sperm count, because I already have 3 kids. If I kill off some swimmers, no big deal.

The point is, look around. If this is important to you, you will just have to find a way.

Don’t give up. You seem to be moving in the right direction if you are reclaiming your lost length.

The laptop for warmup, that’s a new one for me.

Seems like your routine too hard.I’ve been PEing consistently for 3 months and I stretch & jelq for about 12-15 minutes with warm up and warm down.Take it easy,add number of jelqs according to your PIs.

Well, the thing is, when I went at it easy for 3 months, I saw no gains and even a loss of size; but when I intensified my routine, I started to see good PIs. So I’m going to keep up this schedule and see how it goes.

Still no ideas for discreet ways of warming up? I really can’t seem to find an efficient way.. What if I just warm up my hands and squeeze my dick for an extended period of time?

Could you claim the rice sock is for some kind of physical therapy? If someone asked you why the hell you’re heating up a sock in the microwave, could you claim that it is to relax your muscles? It’s just a suggestion, but obviously lying about it won’t work for everyone.

Also, doing your routine while watching TV helps the time just fly by, especially when warming up.

Thanks for everyone’s help.

I just have one more question: How important is cooling down? And how do you cooldown? Do you really “cool” down by applying cold water? Or do you just do the warm wrap again?

That is exactly what I did, I have a shoulder injury and I first put my rice sock on my shoulder in front of everyone without even saying anything.

Anyway How can you PE for month’s and lose?? Are you sure your being honest about your consistency?

UnknownNumber6,

I think most people on this forum is discounting the effects of diets. Which is why I am going to start a thread in supplements when I get the permission to start threads in non-newbie forums.

I think there might be two points that are contributing to your lack of gains:

1.) Everyone states, you are working too hard, 20-40 minutes of jelq is way to long in my experience. I have been doing 15-20 minutes and hard jelqing and I realized that was too intense. I had few negative PIs, so I reduced my jelqing time to 10 minutes. Then I’ve gotten a lot more positive PIs. My erection frequency came back and I feel like I am probably gaining more by doing less. (Remember the point is to stress it a little so it recovers, not stress it a lot so it just shuts down).

2.) You aren’t eating enough protein. I think this is the most over looked fact when people talk about PE. Sure, the penis isn’t skeletal muscle, but you aren’t gonna build the micro tubules and enlarge cells with the macro nutrient of carbohydrates and fats. YOU NEED PROTEIN AND AMINO ACIDS TO BUILD UP IN CELLS. It is a very simple physiological fact that often gets over looked. I am willing to bet that you do not take in more than 50 grams of protein per day, perhaps even less. Eat a good diet, let your body rebuild.

2.1) I think a strong corollary to this is the fact you probably don’t sleep enough either. You need to rest for your body to rebuild and recover. Quality REM sleep cycles are the best.

So on top of taking it a little easier on the routine, EAT WELL AND REST MORE. I am willing to bet money you will see improvements after you do the last 2.