Fibrosis

Hi everyone, I just saw a YT video from Leo and Longevity that said that jelqing causes fibrosis in the penis, which may be bad for performance in the years to come.

I would love some extra length and girth but not at the cost of possibly destroying my penis/sex life. Now he did say ligament stretches are effective for some extra length so I will be focusing on the side to side stretches and will be searching for some more ligament stretches. I’m also going to start pumping for penis health. Pumping is basically a cardio workout for the penis and helps build new blood vessels which help with performance.

Now what I really want to know is, should I be jelqing or not. It does build up scar tissue but how bad it is really. Also if you have any claims or evidence that state the other side please let me know :) .

Jelqing has not caused me an issue in over 15 years.

Jb55 is right. Evidence is hard to find but reliable and believable anecdotal reports are what we have.

No reports exist that jerking shrinks anything which is what I think you are concerned with?

I don’t think that will happen, Jelq keeps blood flowing, on the other side clamp and pump can spark fibrosis as They stop blood flow.

Pretty sure that is not how fibrosis occurs.

Speaking for myself only, I must say that there is some truth to Leo’s conjecture. After doing nothing but hand-jelqing for 30 minutes every other day for 3 years, the base of my penis did grow slightly thicker than the rest of my penis. However, that was back in the early nineties before the world wide web and PE forum, and hand-jelqing was the only underground knowledge available to me at the time. I had severe Peyronie disease that resulted in a 90 degree deviation from straight, which I did manage to almost completely correct after 3 years of dedicated hand-jelqing as previously described, with the slight thickening at the base being the only downside. BPEL became almost 6.5”, and girth improved to almost 6”. The deviation dropped from almost 90 degrees to about 5 degrees tops, when fully erect. I can not give the same measurements before I began the regimen, due to the massive deviation from straight, but using a tape measure, the length was 5.75” fully erect, with 4.75” girth. Lastly, this is just one man’s report, and one report is statistically meaningless of course.

I strongly believe that jelqing or clamping or doing any pressure based or tunica damaging exercise at too high of an intensity is certain to cause fibrosis, strictly based on my experience. I have been doing PE for about 14 years, most of that at much too high of an intensity, without constant heat, and with almost no deconditioning breaks. Over the course of these years my EQ was increasingly terrible, my corpus cavernosa became more and more inflexible to expansion )without an accompanying improvement in erectile quality), worsening curvature (which I understand to be a hallmark of fibrosis/toughening of the tunica) and I gained virtually nothing, girth-wise. I attribute this to the reasons already listed, the lack of extended deconditioning breaks above all else, probably, but unfortunately I believe I am not alone in approaching this whole thing with a “more +better” mentality. More intensity, more consistency, more repetitions, never wanting to take breaks out of fear of missing out on gains before I’m an old man. Now I am an older man, approaching the end of being able to casually date, and I have nothing to show for it other than completely wasted years of my life and a poorly functioning penis.

That’s an unfortunate occurrence.
I’ve been on a pretty hard routine for 10 years and have only experienced positive results. I’m wondering how much pressure you were using? I actually ruptured my CC at one point from going too hard so I’d love to know your threshold.

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I strongly believe that jelqing or clamping or doing any pressure based or tunica damaging exercise at too high of an intensity is certain to cause fibrosis, strictly based on my experience. I have been doing PE for about 14 years, most of that at much too high of an intensity, without constant heat, and with almost no deconditioning breaks. Over the course of these years my EQ was increasingly terrible, my corpus cavernosa became more and more inflexible to expansion )without an accompanying improvement in erectile quality), worsening curvature (which I understand to be a hallmark of fibrosis/toughening of the tunica) and I gained virtually nothing, girth-wise. I attribute this to the reasons already listed, the lack of extended deconditioning breaks above all else, probably, but unfortunately I believe I am not alone in approaching this whole thing with a “more +better” mentality. More intensity, more consistency, more repetitions, never wanting to take breaks out of fear of missing out on gains before I’m an old man. Now I am an older man, approaching the end of being able to casually date, and I have nothing to show for it other than completely wasted years of my life and a poorly functioning penis.
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