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You may not have to cut back much. As someone else said a while back, “listen to your penis”. If he’s raring today go after three poundings a day, you may not have to cut back much.
With myself , if I pump every day, I cannot reach the 7 inch mark. But if let him rest for couple of days, I can reach that mark again.
It varies by individual.
About a decade ago I used jelqing, high force stretching, and really aggressive clamping. My penis when flaccid felt tough like a baseball glove wrapped in skin.To get any sort of expansion at that time, I had to use a lot of force using my hands, rolling pin, or a kind of clamp I made out of two pieces of plumbing pipe. Eventually I couldn’t exert enough force to cause anymore expansion and I continued doing PE for quite a while, but nothing worked.
In retrospect, I should have switched to light pumping then and just continued until the penis deconditioned to prevent a loss of the gains I had made. Or with even more retrospect, I should have just done light pumping and light hanging from the beginning.
My perspective now is that limiting the fibrosis of PE is the most important thing. It seems like any small amount of force is enough to cause gains over time. I’m not sure the technique really even matters much in that regard, what seems to matter is whether or not you’re causing a contraction response through hypoxia (over what is normal for the penis) or exerting too much force. It’s a hypothesis still, but I’ve passed the size I was able to achieve with high force methods recently so it’s looking good.
So what I’m hearing you say is light force is the best method. Maybe I should back off on the tension? And wow you’ve really stuck to this thing for a long time! I’m impressed with your consistency.
So what I’m hearing you say is light force is the best method. Maybe I should back off on the tension? And wow you’ve really stuck to this thing for a long time! I’m impressed with your consistency.
If I was doing PE for the first time with the experience I have now, I would use low force methods exclusively.
I don’t know that it’s the best method, but it’s the best that I’ve tested. Ultimately, what matters is the results and you should check closely what has or hasn’t been working every so often. The process of how connective tissue heals actually varies a lot from person to person, as evidenced by some people developing keloids, when it comes to scar tissue, so it might be variable for this too. I don’t know for sure if this method will work for everyone, I can only report my results with certainty.
I stopped doing PE for about a decade at one time. But I guess it has been a while since I restarted.
The routine I prefer is really easy and passive, there isn’t much work to it at all. I honestly exert more effort brushing and flossing my teeth. I can’t wait until someone invents something to clean my teeth for me, would be nice to have an automatic shower machine too. I wish I knew who invented the penis pump, they really deserve praise.
Starting: 7"bplx5.2" 2017 (shrunk from disuse)(originally 8"bplx4.5", gained to 9"bplx6")
Current: 9.0"bplx6.125" 2020
Goal: 11.5"bplx7" 2021.
If I was doing PE for the first time with the experience I have now, I would use low force methods exclusively.I don’t know that it’s the best method, but it’s the best that I’ve tested. Ultimately, what matters is the results and you should check closely what has or hasn’t been working every so often. The process of how connective tissue heals actually varies a lot from person to person, as evidenced by some people developing keloids, when it comes to scar tissue, so it might be variable for this too. I don’t know for sure if this method will work for everyone, I can only report my results with certainty.
I stopped doing PE for about a decade at one time. But I guess it has been a while since I restarted.
The routine I prefer is really easy and passive, there isn’t much work to it at all. I honestly exert more effort brushing and flossing my teeth. I can’t wait until someone invents something to clean my teeth for me, would be nice to have an automatic shower machine too. I wish I knew who invented the penis pump, they really deserve praise.
So with the Size Genetics extender would you recommend first, second or third bar for tension? I want to take your advice and see what if anything happens for me. And if you want someone to clean your teeth, I wouldn’t something to fold the laundry :)
I ll tell here again my experience with extending.
I started extending at 400-500grams (very low intensity) as this was the only tension that I could use in order to be able to do 4h per day.(anything more was hard for me dick)
I gained for the 1st time in my life (I had tried 3 times manuals in the past with no gains) 0,5cm erect length in just 260h of extending in this tension.
Then I said to myself Oh OK nice gain… now I am conditioned after so many hours so lets bump up the tension and I stupidly did it.
I went to 650 grams and no gains after 300 more h.
Then I went to 800 grams 300h no gains .
Then I went to 1200grams 300h no gains.
The interesting past is that with the 400-500grams that gave my the gain… I had a huge flaccid and super EQ and all night wood.
While with the bigger tensions that gave me no gains all the positive pis were decreased.
well thats my story.
My advice is take 2 weeks of as a little decon… measure if you have any rebound gains… and then extend again with a lower tension
I ll tell here again my experience with extending.
I started extending at 400-500grams (very low intensity) as this was the only tension that I could use in order to be able to do 4h per day.(anything more was hard for me dick)
I gained for the 1st time in my life (I had tried 3 times manuals in the past with no gains) 0,5cm erect length in just 260h of extending in this tension.
Then I said to myself Oh OK nice gain.. Now I am conditioned after so many hours so lets bump up the tension and I stupidly did it.
I went to 650 grams and no gains after 300 more h.
Then I went to 800 grams 300h no gains .
Then I went to 1200grams 300h no gains.
The interesting past is that with the 400-500grams that gave my the gain.. I had a huge flaccid and super EQ and all night wood.
While with the bigger tensions that gave me no gains all the positive pis were decreased.Well that’s my story.
My advice is take 2 weeks of as a little decon.. Measure if you have any rebound gains.. And then extend again with a lower tension
Hey, I really appreciate you chiming in and telling me about your experience. A while back I increased the tension thinking that was necessary because I wasn’t getting any gains. All the PI‘s were positive so I thought that was OK. I’m going to take your advice exactly. Starting tomorrow I plan to take two weeks off and then come back with low tension. I just have to figure out which bar of my size genetics extender would be 500 g. I’ll check the documentation. Come to think of it, when I first experienced gains I was using super low tension. The first bar I think. What you’re saying makes a lot of sense. Thanks so much. I will keep you guys updated on my situation.
Yes I think size genetics 1st mark is 600 2nd is 900 3d is 1200 4th is 1500 (or something like that).
But in the 1st post you said you have X4labs.
The more I read posts about extenders the more I see that people that are gaining is with low low tensions.
Yes keep us updated
Yes I think size genetics 1st mark is 600 2nd is 900 3d is 1200 4th is 1500 (or something like that).
But in the 1st post you said you have X4labs.
The more I read posts about extenders the more I see that people that are gaining is with low low tensions.
Yes keep us updated
I have both SG and X4. I did some checking last night. My understanding is the 1st bar is 1200, second is 2000, third is 2800g for the SG extender. Can anyone verify? And yes I have also noticed people saying low tension with long time wearing = growth, which only makes me feel like an idiot for turning up the tension. Ahhhh!
I am exactly in your shoes!
260h low tension gains and then 1000h with progressive higher tensions no gains! I lost 1 year!
I am back in low tension…
I am exactly in your shoes!
260h low tension gains and then 1000h with progressive higher tensions no gains! I lost 1 year!
I am back in low tension..
It could have been 2 years! (this is what I’m telling myself haha). It sounds like you’re as dedicated about this as I am. How long have you been back on low tension? And did you also see positive PIs before you upped the tension?
My wife is 11 years younger than I and she can’t keep up with me. She recently locked me out of her room ( unfortunately , she would rather sleep with our dogs) because I was making too many demands on her body.
For years I was 80 pounds overweight and I was an androgynous creature. A big fat marshmallow. No sex at all. Then I dropped the weight, started taking supplements and I feel like a kid again. It turned out to be a mixed blessing that comes with some frustration, but I am not going back to being a slug because I feel too damn good!
It could have been 2 years! (this is what I’m telling myself haha). It sounds like you’re as dedicated about this as I am. How long have you been back on low tension? And did you also see positive PIs before you upped the tension?
Its just 1 week that I am back in low tension… so its still very early for gains.
Yes I had huge positive Pis when I was using low tension. The tension that made me gain was 400-450 grams.
So with the Size Genetics extender would you recommend first, second or third bar for tension? I want to take your advice and see what if anything happens for me. And if you want someone to clean your teeth, I wouldn’t something to fold the laundry :)
I suspect the main issue with extenders in general is that they can exert too much force and people out of impulse increase the tension to the highest setting. Since extenders can’t really be calibrated to exert a defined amount of force over long periods of time with their current design, suggesting a particular bar to extend to can’t really be done. I think using the lowest amount of force that causes extension over the flaccid and doesn’t cause a contraction response either the next day or a few hours afterwards would produce the best gains, but I haven’t done a thorough investigation into using extenders on a low force because they’re cumbersome to wear.
If you’re using a low weight or force, the most convenient design I’ve found so far is a U-bolt hanger. It’s made from parts from a hardware or boating store, or the internet, and it’s easy to put on and take off and it’s not very visible in pants unless it falls off (which can happen if it’s not that snug).
Starting: 7"bplx5.2" 2017 (shrunk from disuse)(originally 8"bplx4.5", gained to 9"bplx6")
Current: 9.0"bplx6.125" 2020
Goal: 11.5"bplx7" 2021.
My wife is 11 years younger than I and she can’t keep up with me. She recently locked me out of her room ( unfortunately , she would rather sleep with our dogs) because I was making too many demands on her body.
For years I was 80 pounds overweight and I was an androgynous creature. A big fat marshmallow. No sex at all. Then I dropped the weight, started taking supplements and I feel like a kid again. It turned out to be a mixed blessing that comes with some frustration, but I am not going back to being a slug because I feel too damn good!
That’s really wonderful that you lost the weight.
I feel so sad when I see people that are significantly overweight. I know it’s not easy to fix the damage done by the modern Western diet and who knows what else. I’ve been following research on obesity for at least 15 years. It’s one of the more complex problems facing humanity right now.
Starting: 7"bplx5.2" 2017 (shrunk from disuse)(originally 8"bplx4.5", gained to 9"bplx6")
Current: 9.0"bplx6.125" 2020
Goal: 11.5"bplx7" 2021.
I took your advice. I took two weeks off then started stretching again using no more than 1200g of tension which is the first bar on the size genetics extender. I’ve been averaging 11 hours per day for the past week. With lower tension I’m able to stay in the stretcher longer which is good. So far there’s been a small but noticeable difference. Sometimes right before sex I get harder than usual. When this worked for me a few years ago the same thing happened so I feel that this is a prerequisite for growth and I’m feeling good about the next couple of weeks on this new routine. Thought I would give you guys an update