Hi guys New with questions

Hey guys!
Just wanted to introduce myself.
I am 35, a medical school student, have dabbled in PE off and on over the years (in my 20s). These have ranged from jelqing with lube, pumping (with my dr. Kaplan pump that I still have), and manually stretching with my hands. I’m a 3.5” flaccid, but a hair over 6.55” BPEL.
Was thinking of restarting PE 5x per week with:
20 mins pumping (2 setsx10 mins)
With 150 jelqs between each pump set.

1. Do you guys think that this is a good starting point?

2. When I jelq, each rep is 2-3 seconds long at 80-90% erection, but I feel a rush of blood going (almost like a pleasurable spasm) rushing from my base down 3/4Th of my shaft. I have to squeeze my “OK” grip pretty tight to get that feeling. Am I jelqing too hard?

(Tbh, I was diagnosed with ED this n my 20s due to an injury, and am on 5mg cialis daily. This being said, any time I even look at my penis, it’ll get hard to at least 75%. So I can’t seem to jelq at anything lower than 85%.
There are the occasional good nights where I can swing by with a 50-60% erection, and I don’t have to squeeze my OK that tight to get the blood flow spasm.)

I think long term it’s better not to jelq, clamp, or do high force stretching and do light pumping and light hanging instead. These are just my own thoughts, but they’re based on my observations and testing over a long period of time and this idea of reducing things that cause a toughening of the penis connective tissue seems to have paid off for me.

Having ED might complicate PE. It does seem like maybe others with PE have a more difficult time gaining and it seems reasonably likely that the quality of erections plays a role in penis growth over time. But it also seems like PE in itself has helped some regain their erection quality. ED can have many causes, so it makes sense that what cures it would vary depending on the cause, so this might not apply to your case.

What kind of injury did you incur? I was injured young by bicycle seats and have had some success increasing glans and CS inflation with periodic diluted DMSO in the urethra.

Hi there!

Thanks for the response.

After ultrasounds in my early 20s, it was determined that my penis would not adequately relax and fill out with blood. The urologist attributed this to perhaps wearing a smaller than required cup during sports activities.

The issue is well being taken care of (and has been for a couple of years) by the ingestion of 5mg cialis everyday.

Back in 2005, I did do a pumping routine that was 15 mins x3 sessions (45mins), 5 days a week, followed by wearing a snug cock ring for 1 hr (this was the PE routine that came with my dr. Kaplan pump). In about a year, I did go up to about a ?7.2”? If I remember correctly? Even my wife (at the time) commented on my member looking and feeling bigger. Of course, I quit pumping after that and came right back down to my original erect length in the 6.5s.

I did look into hanging at one point. But I am uncircumcised, which makes a lot of these “routines”/PE methods require a good amount of modification or a no-go (in some cases).

Pumping + hanging to start…? Don’t. You are not conditioned for it.

Either or depending on your goal, but really if you are starting anew the best idea would be to start with the newbie routine. Do a little research while while your doing the routine. There’s a lot to learn. After a couple of months of the routine you will get a better feel for your unit and will have a better idea as to what feels best for you.

Also do not jelq at 80-90% for at least a couple of months. ~70% is ideal when starting.

Thank you for the input! :)
Also, what do you think about the jelq force with the blood rush along the length of the shaft (that I mentioned in OP)? Is that the expected feel of a right jelq stroke? Or do I need to lighten my OK grip up?

45 minutes 5 days a week seems excessive to me. I also wouldn’t wear a cock ring afterwards. It seems like impeding the blood flow is a hindrance for PE long term and not worth the possible short term advantage of keeping the penis semi erect. I took clamping to its limit in the past and did a small experiment on ischemia. I strongly suspect that reducing blood flow plays a major role in the fibrosis of the penis that eventually prevents more gains. The available literature says that ischemia or reduced blood flow upregulates collagen production in fibroblasts. Granted it upregulates degratory enzymes also, it seems to cause fibrosis in the penis in practice.

Dry jelqing? Sounds about right, though you do not want to squeeze too tight. After awhile you will get a better feel for your penis and you should be able to keep a lower erection for workouts. Tightly squeezing and too high of erection level without conditioning really isn’t good. You can find a plethora of of threads and posts by individuals who have had injury as a result. ie. hard flaccid, mild-significant loss of sensation, broken blood vessels, thrombosis, Pyrenees (all i can think of off the top of my head)

Because of your ed and previous injury, go slow.

It’s easy to come across as intelligent on the internet, but not a huge number of people who post on this forum are as bright as they want to sound. Careful who you listen to. Due diligence good sir.

You hit the nail on the head! I do want to enlarge, but not at the possibility of putting my penis/ sex life in harms way.
So what would you recommend for an erection level when jelqing?
I have read many posts (both on and off this site) where people recommend anywhere from as high as 80% erect, to as low as 50% erect.
Thank you pi0neer!

50-70% is the sweet spot for someone just getting into/back into it.

Thank you for a response!

Also, might I mention I have been trying just basic manual stretching for the last 3-4 days (2 on, 1 off), and I have noticed a heavier hanging flaccid and erect penis. Yesterday, My girlfriend even reported it being a little thicker than usual. So this all isn’t just in my head at this point.
I have yet to measure a BPEL to see if I have truly made any changes in the length department.

My routine was:
A warm 15 min shower, followed by 30-35 mins of hand stretching in the 3, 5, 6, 7, and 9 o’ clock directions for a minute in each direction, followed by 2-3 five minute sessions in the bathroom stalls between classes.
I keep my stopwatch app handy at all times.
Had to take a break for the last 3 days because the member was sore (like muscles after a gym workout), and erections, while still good, were an achy, post-workout type of sore, which brought the quality of sex down.
Guess I went too crazy, fresh out the gate.

Will slow down and just start jelqing for 15 mins (comes out to 320 reps @ 3 seconds per rep) per day, and doing my manual stretches (30 mins) on alternate days, 6 days a week, starting out.
Will do this for the first 3-4 weeks and increase duration on jelqing and stretching sessions as tolerated.

Any thoughts on this, fellas?

Sounds like your doing about everything right. Keep it up man. Try to pay attention to reps and not time spent jelqing. 320 reps is a lot starting out.

Ty my friend.
Had an interesting conversation with the girlfriend today and asked her if she preferred my penis more when I jelqed? Or with the manual stretching?
Without missing a beat, she said “definitely the second! It was thicker!”
Even though that is nice, I want to go for the magic 8” bat.
Question: Am I realistically going to gain 1.5” (over a reasonable amount of time— 2-4 yrs) doing solely manual stretching with hands (with my routine noted in previous post)?

Also, With jelqing, I figured quality of reps over time.
15mins x60 seconds = 900 seconds
900/3 (if each rep takes 3 secs) = 300 reps
That’s where I came up with the 300 rep number as the equivalent of 15 mins.

Question #2: if 300 is too much, how many reps would you recommend starting out with?

Nice ha

Tons of factors. It’s possible for sure. Plenty have said they gained as much, but it isn’t likely for most. Time under tension.

I definitely recommend 100-200 for at least the first week. some have said 10-50 a week to start until you reach a certain number. some have said 100 a week until you get to a certain number. I can’t say for sure. Everything I do is based on feel. I’m sure your fine.