How Many Newbs are Skeptical

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I believe. I just don’t understand “how” yet. Reading about smooth muscle and things people suggest here haven’t lead me to any conclusion. But still, it is funny trying to understand how it works and gaining understanding is the key for being able to affect yet another part of my body.

I’m skeptical of everything. That’s why I’m determined not to hurt myself while doing PE. If I do not hurt myself and I don’t make any gains then all I’ve lost is some time. Sure , it’s a lot of time but most of it is enjoyable honestly. If I do gain something then that’s great.

Having been at PE for only about 1.5 months I’ve noticed harder erections, without question. So, that alone is probably worth the time spent.

I think skepticism towards PE is justified. Because unfortunately it doesn’t work as good/fast for person x as for person y. Then there clearly are trade-offs.

This is not a matter of how much you believe in PE. This is about genetics and finding what works for one particular person and body.

Do a search for “hardgainers” here on Thunder’s, take a look at the injuries forum, while you’re searching, search for “discoloration” too and make sure to look at some pics.

I find it dangerous to tell newbies that this stuff works as long as they believe in it, because when they don’t gain as much as they expected by reading some euphoric fast-gainer progress report, they might think “I believe this stuff works, i guess I didn’t train as hard or as much as I should have.”

Most probably this would lead into overworking resulting in severe discoloration and/or injury.

Take care,
Tele

I guess the problem is, we who have clocked up some months or years of PE experience will seek to advise newbies filtered through what they have, or have not, personally achieved. Just about everything we do in life is governed by % success rates. Just because I learn a skill and then apply it 100% successfully in the job I do does not mean that the next person who comes along, with the same degree of knowledge and skill acquisition will not fail miserably. PE has physical constraints; some are real easy gainers some are nigh-on impossible gainers. Some have a positive mental attitude that will give them every likelihood of success (within the bounds of the aforementioned physical constraints) whilst others have a negative focus that will forever cloud their ability to stay in the game long enough to get any sort of positive result. Self-fulfilling prophecy (positive or negative) is alive and living in the world of PE, just as it is everywhere else. So if you find your way into Thunders with a view that “I can’t”, it is highly likely that “I can’t” shows up in lots of other parts of your life as well. Whilst skepticism can show up in a number of different personality-trait individuals (those who are stubborn, careful, affected by a “Big Brother” mindset etc.) skepticism is also a child born of an “I can’t” attitude.
If you can honestly see for yourself that your skepticism is running through, or in conjunction with, a generally negative viewpoint PE is unlikely to give you what you want, even if you do happen to get a bigger dick! I have actually read several threads of vets who had gained several inches in dick size but were still seemingly miserable in general life. Get some help, read some books, meditate, do a course; whatever it takes to get an attitudinal breakthrough for yourself. Dreams and aspirations are inexorably tied to the way you feel about yourself. Whenever you are skeptical about the outcomes of those dreams and aspirations it is almost a ‘Law of the Universe’ that your skepticism will be confirmed.
LWH

“Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship”
- Humphrey Bogart to Claude Raines, Casablanca

I think I will always be sceptical about growing more penis. The mindset that one can not make the penis larger is so integrated in my head that can not help but still be sceptical. I became much less sceptical once I saw my first gains in pictures and found PE-forums but I still find it very hard to believe claims of big gains without clear pictures.

Put another way; I am 100% certain that PE works and is very real but I am sceptical to claims of big gains without evidence.

I was skeptical that any gains were possible for anyone until I perused this site. Now I’m just skeptical that I can make gains!

Hey Babbis,

Looks like you’ve picked up close to an inch (2 cm) in a bit over a year of PE. No, the gain is not spectacular but consider this. Even if you do more than pick up another 2cm per year, by the middle / end of 2008 you will be in the 8 inch Club! No idea how old you are but 3 years in a lifetime is nothing. Unless you are already really old (suspect your not) you’re going to get many, many years of penis-pleasure and gulping and gawping females (my God Babbis, it’s HUGE!). Patience is the key kid. And as for the skeptical voice in your head; just thank it for sharing and show it the door. PE works; you’ve proved it does.

I was skeptical at first, but I’ve know about PE for a few years now. I always stated and stopped because I was not seeing quick results. No that I’m a little older I’m more patient and realize things take time. I kind of regret not continuing because I can only imagine where I’d be at this point. I’ve been at it regularly for the last month (mainly working on girth first) and I’ve gone from 5.25 in girth to 5.5 in girth. So I believe this works.

There is a difference between being skeptical about whether or not PE has the potential to work and whether or not it will work for you. These forums have proven that PE can work for some people - but that doesn’t mean it will work for you. The majority of people who have given an honest PE effort have not realized permanent gains. I think it is important to be optimistic but at the same time realistic. Learn to enjoy PE and if the gains come then celebrate.

The thing is, this isn’t too good to be true. There is no magic bullet here. Sure, it’s possible, but it takes a lot of time, and dedication, and work.

For instance, if YGuy’s journal basically said “I took these pills, and whoop! There was a HUGE LOG between my legs! Check that out!” then I wouldn’t have bothered signing up.

Nothing worth having, is without effort to attain. So, yes, enlarging a cock is very possible, and fairly simple, you just have to DO IT. And that’s probably where 90% of the people who never get anywhere with PE fail.

My humble opinion, I could be wrong/otherwise full of shit. :)

Miss Lotus

You sure seem to be well versed about this place, for someone that just joined ,lotus.

Fairly simple? No way. Its taken 5 plus years, a few broken dicks, a few hundred thousand million hours of combined time spent by members on this forum and a lot of Youth lost by not putting that “BIG” dick to use. You haven’t a clue.

True ! Welcome to Thunders

He/She is a very quick study, perhaps?

How about “It”? Lol. she is a Domme.

I know you know. Just letting her know.