Kegeling BC muscle strength.

Hey guys,

When I was a little kid and before PE, I remember being able to bounce my dick when erect very easily by kegeling. I don’t know when it happened , but when I kegel erect now, my penis doesn’t move at all, it just feels strained, and the Corpus spongiosum doesn’t inflate correctly. On top of this, flaccid kegeling does not make this better at all, it seems to make the muscle even weaker, and I’m talking about an absurdly small amount of kegels. Whats odder even, is that I get these weird pelvic/bc muscle spasms (worse after ejaculation), kind of like when your cumming, but just when I’m flaccid any time of day, sitting in certain positions and other situations.

When this happens my bc muscle spasms and makes my penis jump, I’ve seen it happen when sitting on the toilet, but I cannot make it jump 1/10th as much if I tried manually. I hope this all made a bit of sense.

It’s really messed up and screws with my erections. I hope it wasn’t caused by pelvic/nerve damage ; Because I did fall one time a couple years ago where I took a hard blow to the perineum.

If anyone can relate at all or has any advice, it’s appreciated.

The above was my first thought before I had read that far; I was going to ask if you had received an injury to the perineum.

Although damage to the perineum causing nerve problems with the BC is not something I have come across, I quite often see patients with muscle wastage and involuntary spasms around the knee (usually Vastus Medialis/Lateralis), caused by back injuries. Although the spasms indicate some nerve supply to the area, the patients are often unable to voluntarily contract the muscles fully.

In bad cases, the muscles may be stimulated to contract locally by a Faradic current. I have no experience of doing this with the BC, and I doubt yo would find anyone who has done this. (For medical reasons anyway).

Have the BC problems only occurred since the hard blow? If so, has it remained the same/got better/worse?

Did the problem start suddenly or gradually?

How are your ejaculations and sensation of orgasm? Strong, weak?

Has the problem been constant (not had any times when things felt normal)?

If you place a finger on the perineum and try to contract the BC, can you feel any contraction, however slight?

Do you ride a bicycle often/long distances? (Competitive cyclists do sometimes get perineal nerve damage, although usually temporary - try Googling for it).

Do you have any sensations of numbness over the perineum?

Any ED problems?

Is your general health good?

Feel free to PM me if you would rather not answer these here, but it is to everyone’s benefit!

Hey Firegoat, thanks for that interesting reply.

————Have the BC problems only occurred since the hard blow? If so, has it remained the same/got better/worse? ————

As that happened 3-4 years ago, I can’t say 100%, but the accident may have just accentuated the problem. And I’d say it slowly got worse then leveled over a few years, I don’t really think I would have even known what was wrong, or to attribute these problems to the muscles, because you don’t really get a thorough understanding of your penis or those muscles before PE. But I remember everything was great when I was like 12 or so, I’m 20 now.

————Did the problem start suddenly or gradually? ————

It’s definitely been a gradual occurrence.

————-How are your ejaculations and sensation of orgasm? Strong, weak?——————

My ejaculations border on painful, the BC muscle contracts so hard it feels like the muscles going to give out sometimes, which I think is really because the muscle is overly toned and is actually weak because if it. There is a disorder called Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome (CPPS) which is when a persons pelvic muscles are chronically tightened/flexed because of chronic stress among other things. They then develop myofascial trigger points(knots in the muscle), and get chronic pain in the region and the muscles get very weak because they are chronically tightened/stretched, which is exactly how these muscles feel to me. I also get PC muscle cramps after I ejaculate sometimes. And the BC muscle is connected to the PC. The people with this disorder (CPPS) are advised not to do kegels because it makes the problems worse, and that’s what they do to me also. So does ejaculation.
These are just my own little theories about this.

—————-Has the problem been constant (not had any times when things felt normal)?

It has pretty much remained constant. Refraining from ejaculating, makes it a bit better

—————-If you place a finger on the perineum and try to contract the BC, can you feel any contraction, however slight?

Yes I can.

—————-Do you ride a bicycle often/long distances? (Competitive cyclists do sometimes get perineal nerve damage, although usually temporary - try Googling for it).

Unfortunately I did do a considerate amount of biking (some over long distance) throughout the time when I didn’t have these problems and when they became pronounced. And on bikes I remember having uncomfortable seats. I’ve also given this a good think and I really love mountain biking but I guess I have to give it up.

—————Do you have any sensations of numbness over the perineum?

No, sir.

—————Any ED problems?

Well, having a dysfunctional and overly weak BC muscle messes with your erections, the Corpus Spongiosum deflates immediately if I don’t have a 100% erection and even then it’s not at all passable. The CC’s are hard as hell but the CS doesn’t inflate so I’m literally FLAT. This is also always the case if my penis is pointing upward. Unacceptable erections.

—————Is your general health good?

In general, yes.

Again thanks for taking the time Firegoat. Hope what I wrote was understandable. Anyone else care to chime in?

I think if the problem had begun with a blow to the perineum it would have come on quite fast and soon afterwards, not gradually. The rest of your answers suggest that it probably wasn’t caused by a single incident. They suggest that you keep up a slight ongoing contraction of the perineal area and BC, causing it to tire.

Don’t give up biking, just get a decent seat and if you have not been wearing them, proper padded shorts. It’s definitely best to only sit down when on smooth ground on a mountain bike!

As you still have voluntary contraction of the BC, the nerve signals are still OK. Try to learn to relax the perineal area and BC. If you are keeping up a slight contraction on an ongoing basis, (which happens with CPPS but can happen for other reasons too), the muscles and nerve supply to the area will become tired, which reduces the efficiency of the nerves to contract and release the muscles.

Not ejaculating for a while will reduce the work the muscles do, so it will seem to improve the problem, but the root of the problem is likely to be the continuous contraction causing hypertonicity. I’m guessing that how your BC feels is how most guys would feel after trying to ejaculate several times in a row.

Apart from consciously trying to relax the area, you could try massaging it generally, to calm the nerves in the area and to locate any very tense feeling areas (which may have developed/be developing into myofascial trigger points).

When you find a very tense area, press over it with your finger quite deeply and maintain a constant steady pressure. The nerves from the area will send a message to your brain that the muscle tension has increased. After (usually) 40 seconds to 2 minutes, of constant steady pressure, the brain should send a message back to the muscle to relax. You should feel a slight changing in muscle tension. When you feel this, gradually reduce the pressure of the finger at the rate you feel the muscle relaxing until you can only just feel the finger on the skin. Hold this gentle touch for 30 seconds or so. You may need to repeat this 3 times per session. This form of neuromuscular technique is very effective at releasing trigger points, but it takes a while to master the feel of it.

Hope this helps.

Sounds like a wild problem