measuring in general

will I be bigger or smaller at certain times? Like should I measure three times and average the gains/differnce? I saw some people apparently lose a smidgen’s worth in one calculation. Is it possible to slightly revert in size with a stoppage of pe? Just curious here.

You WILL be bigger and smaller at times. Even with out PE. Like on a good day I might measure almost 1/4-1/2” longer than on a bad day.

What I’ve seen suggested is

1) take erect bonepressed (pressed as hard as you can to your pubic bone) as your measurement. Taking erect non bone pressed is kinda stupid because one day you might push in a little bit and get a better measurement. For me bone pressed vs non is about 1/2” difference. So unless you gain more than 1/2” (or whatever your difference is) it can be accounted for by just pressing in some (you might not notice). You want to press hard because again, you might gain some if you take bone pressed vs super hard bone pressed though the difference is likely to be some 1/8” or less between super bone pressed .

2) Masturbate yourself until you’re almost there. I think that’s the point where you’re probably biggest (since you should have a big ol’ erection then).

Measuring INCREASE in size is all relative so if you measure wrong it’s ok AS LONG AS YOU MEASURE THE SAME WAY EVERY SINGLE TIME. So the best way to keep track of your gains is to use a method that you can do consistently.

I can’t answer the question about losing size after stopping PE exercises though. Sorry, someone else will have to answer that one.

thanks Jonny! You answered my first question awesomely! I comprehend what you mean in it.

>will I be bigger or smaller at certain times? Like should I measure three times and average the gains/differnce?<

You certainly will and there are so many factors which will affect your size - it makes taking flaccid measurements a real headache. You could try taking an average based on your smallest, medium and largest flaccid lengths or simply measure your normal resting state after a shower. Another option is to measure your flaccid stretched length - grasp behind the glans with your thumb and forefinger, pull it out as far as you can and measure. It’s probably the most reliable flaccid measurement.

For BP measurements just follow Jonny’s instructions. Pumpinon8 has some excellent pics in the Member’s Pic’s section showing you just how to go about it.

Measurement Pics

>Is it possible to slightly revert in size with a stoppage of pe?<
Yes. How much will depend on how long you have been PEing for but this is still a very grey area. Anecdotal evidence suggests men who maintain their PE programs over an extended course of time keep far more of their gains than those who don’t. Many opt for just a light maintainance program as an "Insurance Policy" against possible losses.

lil1

While I agree that what ever works for a person consistenly is the way to go, I wouldn’t recommend bp measuring. Depending on how hard you press, you can get very different measurements. Maybe you only gain .1 of an inch but I gain another half inch on top of the half inch I get really pushing and I bet I could push harder for even more.

Best way at least for me is nbp. I measure from the base lightly touching from where it begins. This achieves an actual accurate measurement of my dick. This way you have two indicators working - visual and feel. When I feel and see the ruler at the base of my dick with no pressing, I look where the head ends and guess what? A true measurement. Its very easy and consistent.

BP allows pubic bone depth differences to come into play (fat and bone size) which doesnt allow for comparison with other people in a real way. But I guess it does allow people to refer to their dicks in a bigger way than reality. I just like to keep it honest and let the pe do the work.

i think bone pressed is diffinitly better. I have been measureing for about a month or two and wouldnt account none of my results to a good day or bad day. They seem to be rather consistent. I do remember having a terrible girth day one time, but maybe i measured it in a bigger spot the time before that. In a few weeks it was what i origonally thought. Maybe i gained, but i cant really tell.

BP measurements are just that, Bone Pressed. You press the ruler onto your pubis as hard as you can and get as much length as you can. And if you feel you can get little extra by pushing harder then do it (within reason of course, we don’t want to break the skin!) Because if you feel at the end of it “I bet I could push harder for even more” then you haven’t done a proper BP measurement. It must be max to the point where you absolutely cannot get any more - not even 1mm. These are then very reliable.

lil1

I think “proper” bp measuring is just very painful. I can simply measure from the base and get a much more accurate measure of my dick which can also be used for comparison with others as there are no pubic bone depth difference to skew the results, everything else being equal.

If you have a half inch to go totally bone pressed before you hit pubic bone and I have an inch to go before I hit pubic bone, how can we possibly compare dick size for averages? Is my dick half an inch bigger than yours? Of course not. Yet this is what a comparison would show. Its inaccurate plain and simple. We would need to know exact measurement of pressing in from the out side to bone to eliminate this difference. And to do that we would need an agreed upon starting point. That starting point might be ….. yes, where the dick begins. So why not start there and forget the melodrama?

Also, I’ve done what I thought were pretty even bone presses and got noticeable differences and it wasn’t growth. Still, this way of measuring is useless for comparison unless you can say for sure how much you go in. And if you can do that, you can start at the beginning, before you did the pressing.

Everybodies dick begins from the same place. It makes sense to begin measuring there as from there we are all equal, with no mystery pubic bone depth to contend with. Its actually easier and in my opinion, provides a much more consistent measurement doing it non bone pressed. Its far easier resting lightly against where your dick begins than pushing as hard as you can against a pubic bone. If you got hairs there, uuhh maybe a shave? Plus again, the result is useful for comparison as the beginning of a dick is the same for all (obviously). But the pubic bone from the begining of the dick is different for most people. So lets even it out from the getgo right? Put the ruler in the same spotright were it begins just touching it and even with slight variances in pressure, the measurements are very accurate. And these measurements actually mean something in that you could say I’m this definitvely and you are this definitively. You can’t do that with certainty with bp (because of peoples unequal pubic bone depth and that aint penis!) and that alone makes it pretty worthless as a measuring technique especially when you have the superior nbp method. Just my opinion.

Newbie wrote: I think “proper” bp measuring is just very painful. I can simply measure from the base and get a much more accurate measure

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Newbie, If you want to avoid pain fine but you are simply wrong on the issue where you say that it is More accurate.

bone press gives us an unmoveable reference point for the end of the ruler. NBP are wildly variable (for me they have varied up to 3/8 “). I will say this however if a chick asked me how big my dick was I would give her the NBP measurement, just in case she whipped out a ruler (I doubt she would get the reason for BP).

You seem to be taking this position so that you can pretend that you are the only one on this forum not deluding himself with the larger result of the BP measurement, trust me nobody here is deluding himself, it is a matter of being able to tell whether I really grew that 1/8” or not.

Sorry, I got called away in the middle of my last post.
What a great lively thread! Good to hear your views guys.
OK now where was I.

There are places for both these measurements and it’s not a bad idea to learn how to do both. NEITHER are exact - both have their problems. Choose one or both, just remember to keep your measuring consistent.

Newbie asked a question. I won’t quote him verbatim but this is the gist - If two men measure exactly the same NBP’s (6”) but Man A measures 6.5” BP and Man B measures 7” BP, who has the largest penis? The answer is Man B. Why? Because he has more usable penis. Try this. Measure your erect penis both BP & NBP. OK, now imagine you’re Dr Spock in StarTrek and make the “Live long and prosper” sign with your hand (make a “V” between your ring and middle fingers). If you can, put the fingers either side of your penis and press down hard onto the pubis. Notice how your penis seems bigger. If you can keep your hand in this position and do the equivalent of an NBP you’ll find that the measurement is actually very close to your BP. So what? This demonstrates that the actual USABLE erect penis size is in fact more than just NBP measurements. Your real penis size, the size that you can actually use inside your partner during intercourse is in reality closer to your BP. NBP only shows part of the picture.

NBP measurements will work for some but, unfortunately, not all and probably not the majority. One “big” problem is that about 68%* of men are overweight or obese. In these individuals the suprapubic fat pad (the pad of fat which resides just above the penis) is more developed and often envelops a portion of the penis. Locating exactly where an obese man’s penis meets his body can be challenging enough, and “lightly resting” your ruler at this junction is often simply not a physical option. For this large group of guys, BP measurements are their only option. I’d be interested to find out what percentage of men who visit us are overweight or obese. I wouldn’t be surprised to find it’s significantly higher than average.

NBP’s present a whole nest problems for many people. If you lose 35lbs you’ll lose about 1” from your suprapubic pad and gain about the same in NBP. But in reality your penis is exactly the same length - you’ve really gained nothing at all. Some men’s erections stand at a very acute angle and when they pull them down to measure they create an arc of flesh rather than a nice neat square junction - were do they measure from? Top? Middle? Bottom? And will they remember next month? What about the guys who don’t want to shave their pubes. NBP’s are going to be less reliable for them. And then there’s “Ruler Creep” brigade. While this is a problem for both methods, at least with BP after 2 or 3 measurements they’ve “creeped” themselves into a corner.

Anyway, until they invent better Magic Fairy Dust I’ll be staying put.
lil1

*October 1999, Journal of the American Medical Association

cool, i always heard the lose weight and have a bigger dick argument before, but thought it was baseless. Something a doctor tells you to lose weight by saying you’ll look larger. Thanks!

I continue to disagree. You do not use the amount of penis normally that you say we do when you push around the sides in towards the pubic bone. So both men would have equal usable length and the larger measurement would be wrong. What we are after is usable penis. You are not going to be pushing as hard as you can on your suprapubic pad to uncover some deeper connection (which isnt penis anyway) while you are fucking someone for extra “length”. Losing fat doesnt create more penis, it just makes what is there more visible. Furthermore, the amount of depth between base and pubic bone has fat as only one factor in its difference. Other factors would be posture effects and bone size.

So again, usable dick wise, both men are the same - the measurement is just wrong. Push all you want - there is no dick there. There is a connection beneath but alas, it aint dick in terms of what we normally use to penetrate. NBP works just fine. You just have to be careful when doing it is all. BP is inaccurate and just a way to kid yourself on that day you really decide to push.

dont want to sound rude so Ill tone it down a bit, newbie, please take a look at your name.

dont know why this didnt show up, im sure I posted it before but it didnt turn up :( (Uncut you deleting my posts too now??)

So anyways I’ve had this idea for a while, for a damn fine measuring device, u just gotta get a transparent plastic tube thats a few inches longer than your dick and wide enough so you can easily fit into it… just gotta draw up some measuring lines and numbers with the aid of a ruler and a permanent marker, and it’s better than a plain ruler! coz you dont just stab the ruler in any old ‘angle’ you get the true total external measurement, all the useable dick you got outside your body will be counted….

I then saw a penis pump with this same sorta idea on it so I guess I can’t go and market my idea huh? Bohwell always more crazy get rich schemes up here m’laddo hehe :D

Newbie,
There is a huge temptation to just flame you …… humiliate you, tear you to shreds and make you look a complete and utter fool in front of the whole board …. but I’m not going to. Why? Because you are already doing an exceptionally good job of that all by yourself. Anyone who’s read the FAQ’s and Newbie forums can tell you that. My advice to you is to get rid of that stupid handle (“Newbie”? Seriously, what were you thinking? How myopic was that?) and then read. Read, read, read!

Sec,
You certainly did post it before - it’s over on the Best Survey thread in Main Members. BTW since when has copyright ever stopped any one from pinching ideas … anyway, you’re not selling pumps, are you? :bigwink:

lil1