Newb: questions on hanging, beginner routine, and EQ

Hello! I actually found Thunder’s Place when I was searching for information related to erectile dysfunction. I have had some strange issues with cumming too quickly lately (I have a girlfriend of 3 years and our sex life is, overall, great). Out of curiosity, like any male, I had looked up penis enlargement, but all the webMD and wiki articles in the world said it was impossible and, at worst, dangerous. I’m not a small guy—in fact, I’m just about average (maybe a bit over, depending on the study: EL 6 3/16” and EG: 5 1/8”, height 5’10”), but hey, why not? I am fascinated by the human body and what it is capable of.

I have been reading a ton from Tom Hubbard, Thunder’s Place, PE Gym, and Bib’s forums. I am going to start a routine next week, but have some questions:

1. I’d like to start with hanging, specifically, with the AFB hanger (although I’m considering spending the dough on a Bib). I’ve heard different things—that I should start with jelqing for a month or two, then move to hanging. However, I like the specificity and measurability of hanging. I just want to keep it safe, and figure that using a hanger is the most consistent, as it will always hang in the same place, and I’ll know the exact pressure via the weight used. Is it okay to start with hanging as long as I do a proper warmup and start light?
2. Another reason I want to use hanging is just because it fits in more with my schedule and lifestyle. I have to get up early for work already, and I work multiple jobs, so I’ll also be working at night. However, I might be able to hang while working, as I can work from home. Jelqing, while obviously cheaper, seems like it will take more time, as I can’t really jelq while I’m working and there’s also cleanup involved. Is there any kind of established “minimum” each week? I’m familiar with cementing gains and will do it as often as I can (within the bounds of safety, of course).
3. What are the chances that PE/hanging with help with my EQ? My EQ isn’t as bad as it could be—I still get morning wood every day, and a lot of times things just “click” and I am hard and engorged for an entire sex session w/my gf. In addition to PE, I am going to cut waaay back on masturbation and porn. I am away on business trips for 4-5 weeks at a time, and during that, I masturbate/watch porn 3-4 times a week; sometimes, 2-3 times each day. For a period of time, I was masturbating almost every day. I recognize that stopping this should theoretically improve my EQ, but it sounds like the expansive/stretching that hanging brings will also assist. I recognize that PE won’t cure this—I also think I have some issues caused by incorrectly doing kegels (my kegel involuntarily flexes and holds a LOT), but it sounds like it may help.

Last question: is this real? :P Just kidding—it’s almost too good to be true, and we’re told all our lives it’s impossible. I’m a fairly experienced powerlifter, so I know that gains come through hard work and safety.

We always suggest the newbie routine for a number of reasons, going from safety to better overall improvement etc.. If you are aware of that and have done your amount of reading (which sounds like you did), you can make the best choice for you, I mean, none of us knows you personally, right?

I think jelqing will be required, because it is synergistic with hanging (with about anything, actually); for the first weeks hanging will boost your erection, after that your EQ will start going down without jelqs. The best thing for your erections are exercises you do (not overdo, though) with the erect penis, leaving out Kegel’s.

Thanks, Marinera. One of my concerns with jelqing (I forgot to mention this!) is maintaining the semi-state erection with my EQ problems. My EQ is worst when masturbating unless I’m really aggressive and liberally using my PC to flex.

Obviously, less porn/masturbating and learning to relax my kegel/PC could help relieve this, but I feel like my erection would waver wildly, instead of sticking in the 50-75% range.

Perhaps jelqing and hanging, together (as you say), in addition to my other lifestyle changes, would be best? It could just take a little time before I can “efficiently” jelq.

If you can’t stay semi-erect for long, jelq at lower erections levels, those are effective too. If you learn proper dry jelqing, even flaccid jelqing can be quite useful.

The best choice would be the newbie routine, IMO. Manual stretching will carry benefits way faster than hanging, because the learning curve is way shorter and the time/gains ratio is way higher.

Thanks—I’m seriously considering spending some time to just learn dry jelqing, since that will work much better with the demands of my work, though maybe I’ll get to wet jelq every so often.

I also wasn’t aware that manual stretching typically gives faster benefits than hanging! Is that your personal experience, or a common result here?

It is a common result. To start seeing real erect gains with hanging, you have to put in it thousands of hours.

Yeah, tried wet jelqing with some Vaseline about an hour ago. Had trouble keeping an erection.. :(

I will keep at it. I did 5 min warm up, 10 mins jelqing, and about 10 mins stretching, then a warm down. Stretching felt good.. Hopefully I can get some decent results when jelqing flaccid, and hope that I get harder/EQ improves as I eliminate masturbation/porn.

Thanks again.