Newbie, jelq, masturbating

Hey guys. Two questions:

How long does one remain a newbie? Is it 2 months, since that’s when you’re advised to wait until to start advanced jelqing?

And, since there’s a good chance you’re watching porn while jelqing, if only to keep an erection for up to 30 minutes, what’s your advice on when to finish/come/edge/kegel during that? For example, should you jelq, kegel during (if you’re experienced enough to introduce kegeling to jelqing), stop jelqing to allow for a high erection level and then come, and then return to jelqing/kegeling? Should masturbation and jelqing/PE be kept as separate as possible? Should you just come at the end? Any harm to that? And is it okay to masturbate (or have, um, rough, possibly kinda dick-tweaking/hurting sex) on your days off from jelqing? By the way, I am fully aware of the risks of jelqing at high erection levels

Thanks

I think you are a newbie untill you know your dick better, and knows when it is too much and what works best for it.

High erection level is better for gitrh they say, while low level is better got lenght.

Masturbation has alot of intups to it, it drops hormon level (cant type the male hormon level, tostesteron) that belived to help in gains and faster healing. some i read, acualy do it after or before the PE , but i think that the main gainers don’t.
I personaly can’t see how it can help, so if it can ruin, i just don’t do it close to my rutine.

I think one would gauge the newbie routine mostly from how the your own penis is reacting to PE exercises. You need to ascertain from your own feelings and also Physiological Indicators (search for the article on this), to get an idea of the signs that your penis is responding positively to PE. The idea of the newbie routine is more of a conditioning and a familiarization to the exercises and the stress that you put your penis under.

Masturbating and jelqing are quite different in the sense of the state of mind. For me at least, masturbation is more about pleasure or perhaps if I am working on edging, then it is to condition myself. However, when you jelq, you are working on slow strokes that encourage blood flow into the cells at preferably lower erection levels at the early stages. Furthermore, while you begin jelqing, it is important to focus mentally on your technique, such as the length and timing of stroke, pressure exerted, etc, and for me at least, such things don’t seem to fall into the pleasure category that much.

I don’t see much problem in masturbating to finish at the end of a PE session, though you would need to identify once again the kind of shape your penis is in. Does it feel tender? Are the tissues very fatigued? Listen to what your body tells you. After a good PE session, I usually would prefer to rest my penis for at least a few hours to let it recuperate.