Newbie Routine - 3 Mos and No Gains

Hi All, I have been doing the newbie routine for almost 3 months and have zero gains thus far. Any advice on what to incorporate? I have been following the 2 on and one day off schedule with:

I have a sauna in my house which is where I do my warmup/warm down and stretches.

6 minutes warmup with warm washcloth heated on sauna heater
6 minutes stretches - 1 minute holds (down, straight out, down left, down right, straight, down)
13 minutes of jelqing ranging from 50-80% erect (roughly 3-4 second jelqs)
7 minutes warm down in sauna (same as warmup)

I also randomly mix in 2-3 Ulis after jelqing and maybe 2 sessions of 15 JAI stretches at bathroom breaks in the day.

I am currently 6.3 BPEL and 5” MEG and 5.25 BEG and these haven’t increased after 3 months. My current goal is 7” BPEL and 5.5” MEG. Any help is greatly appreciated!

I would throw in bundled stretches with 2-4 minute holds twisted both directions. I’ve found good success and feel from these. Also, add clamping in 3x10 sets. You can start slow with 1x10 or 2x10. I’d also increase the jelq session from 13 minutes to 20-30 minutes. If you’re crunched on time, you could do 10 minute jelq, 10 minute clamp, 5-10 minutes of jelq, and clamp once more. But I enjoy my clamping sessions. I edge while clamped. This paired with the bundled stretches seems to really get the blood pumping.

The gains will come. Just be patient. Your routine looks good. Don’t add to much to soon. You will kill potential future gains and then you need a decon break. If I were you I would up my jelqing to 20, and then add 10 minutes every second week.

I’m trying to stay optimistic but still no results. It’s a tough thing because I was skeptical of gains and am only proving that true for myself. I’m still at it though. Current routine is:

2 days on and one day off with Warmup/warm down and stretches in sauna
6 minute warm up with heated wash cloth
8 minutes of 1-minute stretches (down, straight out, down left, down right, up, down, straight out, helicopter)
20 minute jelq at 60-80% erect
6 minute warm down with warm wash cloth

Any suggestions? I am looking for length and hopefully some girth as well. I’ve been at it since September 2017.

You shouldn’t need much change intensity wise, even if you are a hard gainer considering your still in the newbie phase. But change is most likely your golden ticket. Perhaps you can try changing order of operation. Warm up, jelq session, then follow with the stretching.

Also, how does your jelqing seem to be? Are you doing it to lightly? Are you correctly milking it? Even though I thought I was on point with it it took me a few months to really get the jelqing down completely.

Do you feel any soreness after your routines? This tends to be a good PI and a sign of future gains for a lot, for me as well. A good healthy soreness that is, no pain or discomfort.

I think my jelqing method seems to be the right intensity. I milk it fairly tight with the ok grip without causing pain. I do feel some light soreness after my routines. I think I am getting more obvious nocturnal and morning erections which may be due to my PE. Should I increase my stretch or jelq time? I forgot to mention that I typically end my jelqing with a few mins of edging and roughly 4 or 5 Ulis for 30 seconds each.

How hard are you stretching?

I’d say fairly hard. I often use a tissue to get a good grip and pull with one hand just below the head.

I was just wondering if you might not be pulling too hard. Stretching with all your strength can cause ligaments to tighten up and resist the stretch. Try JAI stretches. I’ve started using his method for the first time and it feels like a better stretch. I saw flaccid gains almost immediately

+1

I agree, as the matter of fact you shouldn’t even stretch hard. Moderate tension with longer single stretch duration is the way to go.

Hope you will experience some gains soon brother, stay consistent.

Which would you all recommend:

- JAI’s (maybe 3 sets of 15) on my on days or
- Manual stretches with much less force for longer duration like I was doing before

Thanks

Do you think that you can become JCVD by stretching your legs for 6 minutes a day? Come on….

Hmm - So are you saying gains can’t be realized without ADH or constant exercise then? Or squats and dead lifts with our unit? I don’t understand.

I say that you have to reach your stretch limit to progress, which, manually, takes half a hour to over a hour.

How much you stretch in a row doesn’t result in linear gains. Stretching half the time required to reach the limit doesn’t provide half the gain. Either you do enough, or not enough, or too much.