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Originally Posted by Laird
Thanks brother. Yeah I used to buy Kratom a few years ago thinking it would help me with my severe heroin withdrawals and it didn’t do much for me. My tolerance was so high. Even the “strong” extracts did shit for me. My brain and receptors are messed up from my addiction. When I did the 30mg roxis I could do 300mg all at once and barely feel anything. After that I went to the much cheaper heroin. The drug I told my self I would never do.

No worries, just wanted to share something that might help. I guess you know this all to well but try to get into the habit to coming here to share what you are going through so that way you have a mechanism in place to hold yourself accountable to your goals. I will do my best to check in to provide any support that I can since we are all here to help each other.

Cheers!


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Thank you very much. I will definitely try to update you guys on my progress. A part of me wants to jump off at the dose that I’m at now but my entire family doesn’t want me to I mean REALLY doesn’t want me to.

I do know that terrible withdrawals will hit me regardless if I taper or not. But with methadone going off cold turkey especially at high doses comes with worse withdrawals than a slow taper. Most of what I’ve read the worst withdrawals come around getting down to around 4mg for some. But everyone is different and from experience every withdrawal is different. I will say when I would wd from pain pills it wasn’t as bad as wd off heroin. The terrible anxiety was the worst on the pain pills though but I could treat that pretty well with cannabis and that also helped the insomnia. Heroin wd the few times I’ve wd from that the worst was the constant vomiting. Methadone wd lasts forever. I hope cannabis helps.

Sub’s withdrawals were awful too. I swear it lasted a month even after tapering down to almost nothing. I also ran out of sub’s several times because of course I was abusing them. That was the definition of torture. Going from 24-32 mg of sub’s to zero is asking for it tho.

If tapering is working and your family is behind you then taper. Do what’s right for you and your family. But at some point get off it.

I didn’t want to suggest THC to you or anyone trying to get clean. But I’ve been using THC/CBD for about a year and had it been available legally instead of oxy I wouldn’t have been such a mess and put everyone through what I put them through. There’s a lot to be said for it if you can tolerate it. Meaning if it won’t push you towards a relapse. I personally haven’t craved an opioid since I started THC/CBD. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for anyone else. It’s what works for me.

Keep in touch brother we’re here for you either way.

I agree with King but one thing I will say is that even though the withdrawal situation is inevitable, it definitely can be controlled.

Withdrawing coming straight off of 8mg subs a day is by far going to be more rough then coming off of 1 mg a day or .5mg a day. Weening if done correctly is a great tactic. Honestly most people that don’t ween go straight back to the bullshit, most the time. You gotta handle the situation with intelligence.

Kratom helps significantly, I’ve used it. My life saver was subs, only because I truly was ready to quit though. If your not truly ready subs will just be a substitute. I went from 8 mg strips a day to 6mg, to 4mg, to 2mg, to 1mg, to .5mg to nothing. By the time I completely stopped my “withdrawals” were a walk in the park. Easy compared to what I had been through many times in the past. It was also mostly mentally and not too much physical.

I came off of heroin, Xanax, and soma addiction. I was on all of those.

I fought hard though. I did my research. I used every natural remedy, like getting sun. Like drinking large amounts of vitamin C, deep stretching and walking. Juicing large amounts of vegetables and fruits. Drinking gallons of water a day. I didn’t fuck around. I wanted all the poison out of me. This was all while I was on the subs. Especially towards the end of my weening.

By the time I got off subs, I was already a new man. You got this brother. Sobriety is the best life ever, especially when you experience the highs of life.

I suggest practicing edging, and getting used to the natural use of your penis. Start getting blood flow in it by edging everyday, this will also help with not cumming in 30 seconds. Because you can control it more by yourself. And maybe slowly start to do a very light jelq routine that simply is being used to motivate blood flow. You really just want to get your penis used to being used again.


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Originally Posted by kingscounty
Sub’s withdrawals were awful too. I swear it lasted a month even after tapering down to almost nothing. I also ran out of sub’s several times because of course I was abusing them. That was the definition of torture. Going from 24-32 mg of sub’s to zero is asking for it tho.

If tapering is working and your family is behind you then taper. Do what’s right for you and your family. But at some point get off it.

I didn’t want to suggest THC to you or anyone trying to get clean. But I’ve been using THC/CBD for about a year and had it been available legally instead of oxy I wouldn’t have been such a mess and put everyone through what I put them through. There’s a lot to be said for it if you can tolerate it. Meaning if it won’t push you towards a relapse. I personally haven’t craved an opioid since I started THC/CBD. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for anyone else. It’s what works for me.

Keep in touch brother we’re here for you either way.

Thanks brother. I will. Yeah sub wd also takes forever. I chose methadone because of my addict way of thinking. Thinking I could abuse it easier than subs lol

Yes the THC is actually a fantastic medicine for me when withdrawing especially for the awful anxiety. Nothing else helped for it but the weed sure did it is a godsend. Maybe Xanax would help but I haven’t been able to try that.

Originally Posted by Makehergocrazy
I agree with King but one thing I will say is that even though the withdrawal situation is inevitable, it definitely can be controlled.

Withdrawing coming straight off of 8mg subs a day is by far going to be more rough then coming off of 1 mg a day or .5mg a day. Weening if done correctly is a great tactic. Honestly most people that don’t ween go straight back to the bullshit, most the time. You gotta handle the situation with intelligence.

Kratom helps significantly, I’ve used it. My life saver was subs, only because I truly was ready to quit though. If your not truly ready subs will just be a substitute. I went from 8 mg strips a day to 6mg, to 4mg, to 2mg, to 1mg, to .5mg to nothing. By the time I completely stopped my “withdrawals” were a walk in the park. Easy compared to what I had been through many times in the past. It was also mostly mentally and not too much physical.

I came off of heroin, Xanax, and soma addiction. I was on all of those.

I fought hard though. I did my research. I used every natural remedy, like getting sun. Like drinking large amounts of vitamin C, deep stretching and walking. Juicing large amounts of vegetables and fruits. Drinking gallons of water a day. I didn’t fuck around. I wanted all the poison out of me. This was all while I was on the subs. Especially towards the end of my weening.

By the time I got off subs, I was already a new man. You got this brother. Sobriety is the best life ever, especially when you experience the highs of life.

I suggest practicing edging, and getting used to the natural use of your penis. Start getting blood flow in it by edging everyday, this will also help with not cumming in 30 seconds. Because you can control it more by yourself. And maybe slowly start to do a very light jelq routine that simply is being used to motivate blood flow. You really just want to get your penis used to being used again.

Hell maybe I will try a little Kratom for the first week or two of wd. The last time I used it for wds it didn’t help at all from what I was able to notice.

Thanks for the tips man. I’ve been using my penis lately which is great. My libido is coming back as I keep lowering my dose. It was really weird how my libido went through the roof all of a sudden one day when I got down to around 45mg. Almost as horny as when you go cold turkey off heroin or oxy and lasted about a week. My wife felt absolutely smothered. I couldn’t keep my hands off her. Thought about her all day long. Kept telling her how beautiful she is. It was too much for her she actually cried. I went from completely emotionally numb with zero sex drive to a complete hornball way worse than a teenager OVERNIGHT.

I’m amazed my wife never left me. She just stayed by my side the whole time and all the shit I’ve put her through. Not gonna lie, because of that I do love her more now than ever. I’m not smothering her anymore but I am super attentive to her and help her with everything I can and compliment her daily. I am pretty much obsessed with her. She’s happy with my penis size but I’m not and I know she would enjoy more girth and a little more length. Plus I would enjoy the feeling of stretching her. She’s ok with me doing PE and maybe even excited though she doesn’t say anything.

I start our sex by going down her every time and making sure she cums at least once and usually twice before I stick it in. As you know I can’t last long at all so I gotta make sure she has been satisfied before my premature ejaculating ass goes in lol

I do try to edge when I’m inside her. But man it’s hard to do right now. I might try light jelqing and will definitely make sure to go light. Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by Paradigm
Hello Brother,

Please look into Kratom since its a powder leaf. It can help with your situation of getting off the hard drugs. However, please do your due diligence as there are many ways to use this powder. Also this stuff is cheap like $9 for 28g and the dose is like 1/2 a teaspoon (not a tablespoon) and its not meant to be taken daily. It’s too much to explain here so hopefully with your research, you will find this either useful or not. Cheers and good luck.

Second this.
Kratom has done so much for me. I was hopelessly addicted, and after a short stay in ICU for some deep vein thrombosis, I finally had enough. Acute withdrawal is torture, but post acute withdrawal syndrome is another doozy. Kratom won’t make things completely comfortable in the beginning but I’d estimate things were 90% easier. I was floored how easy it was. It does make the boredom and other issues better once you’re past the first week or so. It’s incredibly cheap, I get kilos for 120$ and it lasts months. I still take kratom, but I run out occasionally and it’s not the god awful panic like real opiate WDs. Kratom withdrawal is a walk in the park, little watery eyes and runny nose, maybe some diarrhea but I can still sleep and work and function. I say that to make sure we’re clear that kratom can become habit forming too, but it’s mild. Gives a great energy and mood boost for me, good for moderate pain, and while it can become a habit or by some definition maybe an addiction, it’s not easy to abuse it. It’s disgusting tasting and if you overdo it you’ll be nauseous and puking.
Worth looking into man. Prepare yourself, get some kratom, maybe do a fast taper down to little doses then jump off. It’s a wonderful thing to free oneself from them chains. Zero opiates since August 2015.

Originally Posted by Laird
And I also have ED, loss of libido, and high blood pressure. I am in the process of tapering to get off this crap. Months ago I was as high as 100mg and now I’m down to 30mg.

At around 45 or 50mg my libido came back with intensity for about a week or so. I couldn’t stop thinking about my wife and all the things I wanted to do to her, walking around with a semi and pre-cumming like crazy all day until I got the time to play with her. My libido dropped since that but not near as low as when I was on a high dose of methadone. I can achieve erections but not good ones and I can’t last long at all either.

Anyway the plan is to be completely off this junk in about 6 months. I have been reading about physiological indicators and morning wood being one of the good indicators of doing PE right. SO, if you were me would you wait to do PE until being off methadone? Or would you do some light PE to condition penis with manual stretches and wet jelqs?

I appreciate any feedback and will obviously consider my health first as I absolutely don’t want anything bad to happen to my favorite body part.

Its good to start focusing on PE and other exercises while/after getting off opioids.
Here are my self experienced tips.
1.Do not try taper off method as opioids are so lusty they will again call you to full dose someday again.
2. It takes minimum 2 relapses before you can finally get over these opioids.
3. I suggest you to ask your Doctor to give you Naltrexone 50mg. Its the best thing which will develop the hate in your body for opioids. Like so much hate that your stomach will cramp the next time you take the walk to score some opioid.
4. Message me if you want to know more about how to leave opioids forever with using just one Tablet of Naltrexone.
5. Even after your opioid dependence is over. It will take roughly 6-8 months to get back to a Perfect Productive Lifestyle.

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