Only 2 Possible Theories For PE

I’ve been involved with the research about PE for 10 years now. I haven’t gained yet because I tried to gain only once where I was doing stretches and jelqing for 3 months, the rest was just reading and exploring.

My conclusion of PE is this. You can expect growth with:
1. Stretching, jelqing, hanging, pumping and keeping penis in a stretched state so long until the division and growth of new cells is being activated. Here I don’t see the point of taking rest days since we don’t talk about the method where you look at you penis as a muscle that works out, but as a live tissue that can be permanently stretched.

2. Kegels. Sorry I know a lot of you will disagree, but if you are talking about the method where you treat your penis as a muscle and that the muscle regenerates-heals after the workout, in other words like body building approach with urgent rests, then the only way to build the muscle is with kegels. Why because it’s the only approach where penis is working out. All other methods I mentioned before don’t stress the muscles to make them stronger, but stretch them.

What do you guys think? Is method number 1 correct? No rests in order to cause the cell division…?I am scared that after stretching and then resting you might become counter productive and end up with a shorter penis because of turtle effect. ADS is the way for length. Kegels are the way for girth with rest days. I’ll try both methods as described and get back at you after few months to see if any of it worked.

You need rest days otherwise you will cause injury. Turtling is not necessarily bad and in fact may be an indication of growth to come.

Try the newbie routine for a few months and see what happens. This will help you to learn how your body reacts to the exercises. Then you will know how to proceed with more advanced exercises.

There is no one routine that fits for everybody. As individuals, we need to constantly tweak the variables of any routine in order to maximize the effectiveness for our own body.

The wheel has been invented. Make some changes to it so it fits with your body. Start with the newbie routine.

You’ve been studying this for 10 years and you think one of the only possibilities that cause growth is strengthening muscles that aren’t even inside the penis.?

I think you need to go back to the drawing board, my friend. I think you also need to get some experience on your own outside of jelqing and stretches for 3 months before you make any conclusions about how this works. Good luck.

Other than shooting down Survivor89’s statement, what of substance do you have to offer to the discussion?

All human tissue needs rest.

His first point may have merit, but it’s not a new theory. The exact mechanisms of growth aren’t fully understood by anyone as there simply hasn’t been anybody with the proper equipment and funding to put together a study and see what’s actually happening on a cellular level. There’s also the microtear theory, but it reminds me of how it was commonly thought that bodybuilding spurred hypertrophy through microtears in the muscle fibers. However, modern research shows that it’s actually metabolic stress that is the primary driver behind this.

We know PE works, but without understanding the exact mechanisms behind growth, we are finding success through correlation rather than causation. I think solving for X here and increasing our understanding of the biological processes that are actually happening will cause an explosion in reliability and replicability of training regimens to make gains. I’m working on my own theories as it’s an area I’m quite passionate about and hope to share helpful findings in the future.

As far as rest days go, I think it’s more of an overtraining thing. Overtax the tissue and you won’t make any gains. Too little stress will result in the same problem. For myself, that results in a 5-on-2-off length regiment and girth training 3 times per week. If I go any more frequently than that I get negative PIs and lose size if anything (I’m sure temporary due to EQ loss but I’ve never persisted when my body is telling me to stop, so who knows how deep the negative PI rabbit hole goes?). I’m sure there are more optimal training schedules than this, but I have to take care of other areas in my life too.

I’m also a little skeptical of the heat theory (current one circulating, therapeutic temps, etc.) leading to increased gains, but I am still looking into it before I go into it any more publicly. I’ll just say that the collagen deformation theories might go the way of LOT.