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OVER a Year of PE with Minimal Girth Gains - Advice Requested

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For my defense, English is not my original language. And for my offense, i’m an inbred with 22 chromosomes.


PhoenixNow Progress Reports

Started August 2018: BPEL/MEG 5.7" x 5" - Now: 6.1" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: BPEL/MEG 8.5" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by Platonist
This is called transposition; it’s a normal occurrence in all languages and happens more or less spontaneously. Think of what children invariably do to spaghetti: they transpose the s and the p, and get: “psaghetti”.

You can not only see this happen spontaneously in a child, you can see it historically: so, for example, the word “asked” has the /sk/ phoneme - yet, in the middle ages the middle english pronunciation was: ax-ed. Same word, but the s and the k were transposed (from our perspective). Interestingly, there has emerged in the past few decades a linguistic subculture that transposes the phonemes in the exact same way: “I axed (re: “asked”) you to stop doing dat.”

Once you know these language rules, a modern english reader can easily read middle english: so, for example, you may have heard of another phenomenon in English called the Great Vowel Shift. If you see the word “brid” in middle english, and you know the “i’ phoneme was actually pronounced as a long “e” sound, but is now pronounced as a short vowel: so, in modern English: “breeeed” to “brid” - AND, then you transpose the “r” and the “i” - you get modern “bird.” So, Middle English: “brid” (pronounced “breeed”) to modern english: “bird”.

I’m a total blast at a party. :)

I’m totally on board with you, but at the same time, we would correct the child when he/she has matured to a level of understanding to the correct pronunciation of it. They would also spill the spaghetti on their face, which - just the same - is less endearing when they are an adult ;)

I genuinely did not know that it was actually once pronounced as “axed”. From my experience with this pronunciation, it is usually how uneducated black people pronounce the word “asked” in America. Not so much the case for uneducated white people there or black people in the UK or in the EU in general. Although, we have something _horrendous_ in the UK called “th-throttling” where people for whatever reason pronounce “th” as an “ff” sound. I.e.”I fink I hit my fum with somefink” (I think I hit my thumb with something”. It’s plain awful, especially in London. This is equal for white and black people, but rare for Asians/Indians etc to speak this way. Again, it’s mostly the uneducated that talk this way, as I was raised on a council estate and was surrounded by people speaking this way, but though high school, college, uni, I found less and less spoke this way by noticeable leaps, to literally nobody at all in med school speaking this way.

Nice snippet of info there, thanks!

And for the record, I’d invite you to a party and pick your brain for a while, sounds like fun :P

Originally Posted by PhoenixNow
For my defense, English is not my original language. And for my offense, I’m an inbred with 22 chromosomes.

No defense necessary, I was just informing people :P
Second languages are tough, I know, and I always appreciated it when someone corrected my spelling or pronunciation. My sympathies for the missing chromosomes!


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

LightningZee,

Thanks, man. I’m hoping to get to at least 5” girth (5.25 would be ideal). I started off a bit thinner than most so it’s a journey for sure. I agree with lower pressure for extended periods. That seems to be giving me the best expansion that lasts and doesn’t destroy my EQ. I’ll look into NO. Thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by Beardly
LightningZee,

Thanks, man. I’m hoping to get to at least 5” girth (5.25 would be ideal). I started off a bit thinner than most so it’s a journey for sure. I agree with lower pressure for extended periods. That seems to be giving me the best expansion that lasts and doesn’t destroy my EQ. I’ll look into NO. Thanks for the advice.

You’re welcome. Seems our targets are identical right now then, literally I have the same aspirations. Right now I am targeting length, but it’s ambiguous as to if I am getting anywhere… I wish you the luck that I wish I had!

I’ll check in once in a while and see how things are going, hopefully I can offer some more thoughts if you need some more info.

L-Z


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

L-Z,

Much appreciated, sir. Good luck to you as well.

Ligthning have you started a focused pe exercise yet? I am seeing gains in SFL just a few weeks into my extending with high force every day program. I don’t even do 1 hour of extending and already something is happening whereas nothing happened with only wearing my ads.

Originally Posted by Beardly
L-Z,

Much appreciated, sir. Good luck to you as well.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by HenrikL
Lightning have you started a focused pe exercise yet? I am seeing gains in SFL just a few weeks into my extending with high force every day program. I don’t even do 1 hour of extending and already something is happening whereas nothing happened with only wearing my ads.

Yes, I have been focused for the past 7 months now! Phallosan has been 12 hours per day, 6 days per week consistently. Worn “correctly” as advised by the PF team for 5 months saw nothing at all. Absolutely zero, except part of my foreskin kinda more puffed than prior. Not something I appreciate having now. Now I am wearing it modified, with a force of around 3kg at all times for 12h per day, 6 days per week. Flaccid looks great, SFL is ambiguous but perhaps a tad more (or perhaps that’s optimism?) but nada in girth (as expected) nor in BPEL or NBPEL.

I also jelq for 15 minutes in the morning after a hot shower and edge for a total of 30 minutes throughout the day - 10 after jelq and twice more during the day to make sure the circulation is good form the extended force for long duration. But yeah, still nothing…
I also used to use the BM for added workout but id only gave temp flaccid and discoloration. Absolutely would not recommend it


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by LightningZee
Thank you!

Yes, I have been focused for the past 7 months now! Phallosan has been 12 hours per day, 6 days per week consistently. Worn “correctly” as advised by the PF team for 5 months saw nothing at all. Absolutely zero, except part of my foreskin kinda more puffed than prior. Not something I appreciate having now. Now I am wearing it modified, with a force of around 3kg at all times for 12h per day, 6 days per week. Flaccid looks great, SFL is ambiguous but perhaps a tad more (or perhaps that’s optimism?) but nada in girth (as expected) nor in BPEL or NBPEL.

I also jelq for 15 minutes in the morning after a hot shower and edge for a total of 30 minutes throughout the day - 10 after jelq and twice more during the day to make sure the circulation is good form the extended force for long duration. But yeah, still nothing…
I also used to use the BM for added workout but id only gave temp flaccid and discoloration. Absolutely would not recommend it

Yeah I believe a lot of the stress of the Phallosan somehow goes lost from the springs like both an elastic belt and a spring seems like the forces would counter out to a large degree.

Including you and the guy with the fully erect avatar thats two people that have used phallosan forte only for over or around 1000hrs with zero gains. I believe the phallosan is not capable of penis enlargement. I also own it myself but only used it a few times (you can see a pic of me wearing it first post in my members only log).

I believe an extender is a guaranteed way to get penis lengthening if you continously add rods to it. With such an incredible amount of time invested in the phallosan and no result I would advice the garbage bin.

Then buy an extender or penis hanger and start 1 hour in the morning 1 hour at night routine. After 1000hrs of extender you would be somewhere around 1 inch gained in SFL.


Last edited by HenrikL : 12-20-2018 at .

Originally Posted by HenrikL
Yeah I believe a lot of the stress of the Phallosan somehow goes lost from the springs like both an elastic belt and a spring seems like the forces would counter out to a large degree.

Including you and the guy with the fully erect avatar thats two people that have used phallosan forte only for over or around 1000hrs with zero gains. I believe the phallosan is not capable of penis enlargement. I also own it myself but only used it a few times (you can see a pic of me wearing it first post in my members only log).

I believe an extender is a guaranteed way to get penis lengthening if you continously add rods to it. With such an incredible amount of time invested in the phallosan and no result I would advice the garbage bin.

Then buy an extender or penis hanger and start 1 hour in the morning 1 hour at night routine. After 1000hrs of extender you would be somewhere around 1 inch gained in SFL.

Perhaps, my concerns may be related to your theory in the sense that I did not feel enough tension in my shaft. Now, it is pulled very tight at all times. It is not uncomfortable but there is a strong tension now. I am hoping this is the path to victory!

I believe so too. In theory it should work. It is why I hope my modifications to the PF can work this way, as it is now definitely acting as an extender.
I would not say bin the PF, as it costs too much money. But mod it or use and an ANS is my advice.

I don’t intend to hang, already invested enough in a bullshit pump (Bathmate) and the PF. Man I feel like a sucker. But I think potentially, if PE really is possible, I can get them to work. Or maybe I really am a sucker


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by Beardly
Adgj1987,

Thanks for the input. I’m planning in getting into clamping also once I get a few more weeks in on my routine. Are you going with 5 min or 10 min intervals? I’d be interested to see how it goes for you.

I was starting with 5 and going to move to 10. But I elected to switch to purely hanging with a Bib hanger because theory states go for length first, because gaining length after girth can be harder. People argue this is theory and was not the case for them, but enough people are saying it to cause concern. I am 6 inches BPEL, which comes out to ~4.75 inches NBPEL length. So yes I want to gain girth badly, but I need a lot of length as well and I am going to do what is best for me long-term and stay patient. Girth will have to wait.


03/2018: BPEL 5", MEG 4.4375". 05/2020: BPEL 6.1875", MEG 4.4375".

11/2020: BPEL 6.4375", MEG 4.5".

Short term goal: BPEL 6.5", MEG 4.75". Long term goal: BPEL 7", MEG 5".

Here is my advice to you.

-Clamping. For some this is the #1 girth exercise by far. Do your research and start slow.

-Figure out what works for you. You do this by changing one variable at a time. Clamping + other exercises, clamping + adding a clamped exercise, amount of time in the clamp, number of sets, amount of pressure, etc. Tinker with that stuff, but do it in a very methodical way. It will require you to be meticulous, but it will be worth it. Only change one thing at a time, and do it for a bit, then see results. This way you know what works. Do more of what works, and quickly switch off of what doesn’t (after a few weeks).

You have the luxury of having reached your length goals and being able to only focus on girth. You’re in a great spot. Be smart and efficient and you will reach your goals.


03/2018: BPEL 5", MEG 4.4375". 05/2020: BPEL 6.1875", MEG 4.4375".

11/2020: BPEL 6.4375", MEG 4.5".

Short term goal: BPEL 6.5", MEG 4.75". Long term goal: BPEL 7", MEG 5".

Adgj1987,

Very sound advice. Thanks, man. I started clamping for 3x5 min sets followed by 12 min in the Bathmate at low/med pressure, 1 on/1 off and so far things are looking good. I appreciate the assist.

I wanted to say thanks to everyone for their advice over the past few months. I have been on a 1 on 1 off clamping routine and it seems like things are picking up, although I wanted to pick your brains on a topic I was unable to find a direct search result for: size fluctuations.

I have been doing the following routine 3 days a week:

Warmup (rice sock): 5 min
Bundled Stretches: 5-7 min
Bathmate (low pressure): 5 min
Clamp: initially 3 sets of 7 min. For last month, switched to 3x10 min.
Edging: 5 min
Cock ring: until bed

While I notice about a 1/4” increase in girth after the session, it seems like the next day, sometimes girth seems thicker but other times, it seems even less than where I was at after my newbie gains stopped over a year ago. For instance, I measured yesterday after a full day off and I was at 4.5, if not a little less (compared to 4.62” from a few months ago). Measured again today and was maybe just at my previous girth if not slightly below.

EQ is decent, and the wife and I did have a baby recently so I’m assuming stress could be an issue, but I was wondering if you guys had experienced similar fluctuations. I feel like 1 on 1 off with often 2 off on the weekend is plenty of rest, but I wanted to make sure I’m giving the little guy the right amount of stress to grow.

P.S. - if this should be posted in another thread, let me know. I couldn’t find one that was directly applicable.

Thanks

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