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Warming up by massage

Hi guys,

I’m new to this forum and I’ve viewed through many threads,

And I found out that nearly every veteran is emphasizing on warming up is necessary for effective gain, now I’m aware that warming up is of vital importance

I have a question that, if I warm myself up by massaging my dick before jelqing, would it be as good as warming up with heat pads and rice socket?

Please enlighten me, thanks in advance!

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Not necessarily no. Generally the warm-up is specific to adequate heat being applied to your member and the surrounding tissue, which more often than not a massage with your hands wont supply the same amount of heat as the other methods used (heating pads, lights, rice-socks, warm showers).

However, I will add that in the past I have used warm oil to massage before a massage and found that to be an extremely effective warm-up, but if you don’t want to deal with the hassle of warming up oil every time you workout and don’t have many other options for applying heat i think just doing a general massage before hand such as you suggested would be better than nothing. Just try and spend a bit more time perhaps massaging, try to get adequate blood-flow to the area. I think ideally you should get that same feeling of plumpness/pliability that happens after taking a long warm shower or bath.

As a side-note, ive mentioned this in other threads before but using warm oil is absolutely amazing especially pure olive or coconut oil. I use it both as a warm-up and a cool-down in my workouts (not every day). Its honestly amazing, it warms the area perfectly, and both olive and coconut oil have proven benefits when used on skin.

TLDR: It wont be as effective as other methods, but is better than doing no warm-up at all. Just make sure to take more time in the warm-up to ensure there is at least decent enough blood-flow and heat.


"Pain is temporary, pride is forever."

I like jelqing and using my heat pad

Ill usually jelq for 10 minutes while the pads heating up then heat for 5 minutes then start whatever routine I have scheduled for that time

I mainly jelq and heat before hanging or wearing my x4labs

Originally Posted by oMooseknuckle
*added a TLDR at bottom*

Not necessarily no. Generally the warm-up is specific to adequate heat being applied to your member and the surrounding tissue, which more often than not a massage with your hands won’t supply the same amount of heat as the other methods used (heating pads, lights, rice-socks, warm showers).

However, I will add that in the past I have used warm oil to massage before a massage and found that to be an extremely effective warm-up, but if you don’t want to deal with the hassle of warming up oil every time you workout and don’t have many other options for applying heat I think just doing a general massage before hand such as you suggested would be better than nothing. Just try and spend a bit more time perhaps massaging, try to get adequate blood-flow to the area. I think ideally you should get that same feeling of plumpness/pliability that happens after taking a long warm shower or bath.

As a side-note, I’ve mentioned this in other threads before but using warm oil is absolutely amazing especially pure olive or coconut oil. I use it both as a warm-up and a cool-down in my workouts (not every day). Its honestly amazing, it warms the area perfectly, and both olive and coconut oil have proven benefits when used on skin.

TLDR: It won’t be as effective as other methods, but is better than doing no warm-up at all. Just make sure to take more time in the warm-up to ensure there is at least decent enough blood-flow and heat.

Thank you so much!I’ll definitely try the warm oil

By the way I spotted red dots on my foreskin last night after my routine,

I know I should stop jelqing or pumping today, but it is ok to do stretching only? Because the dots are only appearing at my foreskin.

Some theories seem to indicate that if you’re not bringing your tissues up to about 112 degrees fahrenheit, you won’t be getting collagen deformation. I haven’t had a heat pad that’s gotten anywhere near that temperature, but I can’t speak to anybody else’s results.

At any rate, while I’ve daydreamed about this being the case, I don’t think massage will get your tissues in the state that we’re generally looking for, which are determined by temperature in the literal sense and not in the more colloquial sense of ‘warming up’ the muscles before a workout (which is more about breaking up fascia and getting blood flowing, not really about literal temperature).

“Infrared heat increases the extensibility of collagen tissues. Tissues heated to 45C (112F) and then stretched exhibit a nonelastic residual elongation of about 0.5 to 0.9 percent that persists after the stretch is removed. This does not occur in these same tissues when stretched at normal tissue temperature. Thus 20 stretching sessions can produce a 10 – 18% increase in length in tissues heated and stretched.”

I just found this from Shiver’s post, I think you are right Golddinger

Now I should go get a heat pad

Originally Posted by Oneironaut
“Infrared heat increases the extensibility of collagen tissues. Tissues heated to 45C (112F) and then stretched exhibit a nonelastic residual elongation of about 0.5 to 0.9 percent that persists after the stretch is removed. This does not occur in these same tissues when stretched at normal tissue temperature. Thus 20 stretching sessions can produce a 10 – 18% increase in length in tissues heated and stretched.”

I just found this from Shiver’s post, I think you are right Golddinger

Now I should go get a heat pad

so your telling me if the heating pad doesn’t get that hot then I’m wasting my time?
My heating pad only gets to I wanna say 90. Do I have to buy one that gets to 112 or higher?

Originally Posted by unhung1
so your telling me if the heating pad doesn’t get that hot then I’m wasting my time?
My heating pad only gets to I wanna say 90. Do I have to buy one that gets to 112 or higher?

That’s my opinion. You need to get your tissues above the human body temperature at least, which is 98.6 otherwise you are not heating anything at all. You’d in effect be cooling the tissues. I don’t use a heating pad though, I use a cup of warm water, sitting on the toilet, at a temperature that doesn’t hurt and is not uncomfortable but is definitely hot. Very efficient way to warm up very quickly.

Thank you guys. This was a very interesting discussion! So far I haven’t used a heat pack. That I had to get my tool warmed up before doing whatsoever was obvious, as you would do before any workout. And massaging did benefit. But I didn’t know that a higher temperature makes such a big difference!!

Thunders is really a place where you can benefit from huge experience first hand. Thank you all!


Stats: 06/2011: BPEL: 13 cm; MSEG: 10 cm; 04/2022: BPEL: 20 cm; MSEG: 14 cm

Goal would be: BPEL: 20 cm => reached 03/2022; MSEG: 15 cm

Bangel77's Journey More pictures: Post full body pics here (p. 216)

Originally Posted by oMooseknuckle

However, I will add that in the past I have used warm oil to massage before a massage and found that to be an extremely effective warm-up, but if you don’t want to deal with the hassle of warming up oil every time you workout and don’t have many other options for applying heat I think just doing a general massage before hand such as you suggested would be better than nothing. Just try and spend a bit more time perhaps massaging, try to get adequate blood-flow to the area. I think ideally you should get that same feeling of plumpness/pliability that happens after taking a long warm shower or bath.

As a side-note, I’ve mentioned this in other threads before but using warm oil is absolutely amazing especially pure olive or coconut oil. I use it both as a warm-up and a cool-down in my workouts (not every day). Its honestly amazing, it warms the area perfectly, and both olive and coconut oil have proven benefits when used on skin.

TLDR: It won’t be as effective as other methods, but is better than doing no warm-up at all. Just make sure to take more time in the warm-up to ensure there is at least decent enough blood-flow and heat.

Here is mentioned normal olive oil for example, that has been heated up. But weather you do it with oil or other preheated means, doesn’t temperatures in those tissues drop again quite fast during workout to normal body temperature?

What about “heating” substances like creams or oils that generate heat inside your skin? I have a cream that does this. Will try what’s gonna happen.

Also, when we were children and had a bad cough our grannies used to put black pepper together with home made strong alcohol on our chests. That generated quite some heat..

I’ll make a little experiment: will put some black pepper in olive oil and will see if it becomes a heating oil that will continue to generate heat inside the tissue and can be applied again if necessary.


Stats: 06/2011: BPEL: 13 cm; MSEG: 10 cm; 04/2022: BPEL: 20 cm; MSEG: 14 cm

Goal would be: BPEL: 20 cm => reached 03/2022; MSEG: 15 cm

Bangel77's Journey More pictures: Post full body pics here (p. 216)

Salves and creams are not generating true heat and will not increase body temp. They are affecting the nerves which make you think it is heat. Capsaicin is a common component of peppers and is described as a chemical irritant to mammals.

Bottom line is these are not helpful for PE.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

It be curious. The oil that makes black pepper hot might irritate your dick skin.


Start (8/30/21): 6.5"BPEL X 5.25" MSEG

Now (12/5/22): 8.75" BPEL X 5.75" MSEG

Goal 9.5"BPEL X 7" MSEG My Journey

Besides using a rice sock for warming up I always get an erection and play with it for at least 5 or so minutes prior to warming up. I find that this gets the blood in my penis really good, expands the skin and tissues, makes the vessels and capillaries work, and preps my penis for the heat. I get what feels like a deeper warmth in my cock from this. I also make sure to get the rice sock thing (its a long double-chambered shoulder and neck heating pad thing) very hot and to make it make contact with the base of my penis while I warm up. I warm up with this sock thing for between 10-15 minutes. I’m currently pushing my warm up to 15 minutes every time and I’m getting few to no red spots and much less edema as a result.

I honestly have no idea how hot my rice socks get (both the one i use for warm up and the donut rice socks I made to completely wrap around the pump cylinder while I’m in it) but I should use a thermometer to just see how hot they get. I know its hotter than 112F for sure!


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

Thanks for more thoughts on that, guys 👍


Stats: 06/2011: BPEL: 13 cm; MSEG: 10 cm; 04/2022: BPEL: 20 cm; MSEG: 14 cm

Goal would be: BPEL: 20 cm => reached 03/2022; MSEG: 15 cm

Bangel77's Journey More pictures: Post full body pics here (p. 216)

Palm Rub

Originally Posted by Bangel77
Thanks for more thoughts on that, guys 👍

One more idea: has anybody tried to rub your dick between your palms to heat it up and massage it? As if you would rub your palms to get them warm, but with your flaccid dick inbetween. Tried this today. In the morning he felt quite ok, but not perfectly relaxed to be ready for work. I gave him that rub for a minute or two, after that he was like jelly, warm, soft, fluffy, ready.

Also did that after he got down from workout. Something like warm up and cool down for other workouts. What do you think? Ever tried?


Stats: 06/2011: BPEL: 13 cm; MSEG: 10 cm; 04/2022: BPEL: 20 cm; MSEG: 14 cm

Goal would be: BPEL: 20 cm => reached 03/2022; MSEG: 15 cm

Bangel77's Journey More pictures: Post full body pics here (p. 216)

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