A depressed non-gainer in Europe

As I remember, Casanova used to say: As long as I have even one finger left,I am going to be a great lover.

Or something like it ;)

Q4L, your definitely icon of hard gainer (probably most known in TP :) ), but on the other side, you are in group of gainers. Its mean something. Maybe you change routines to quickly? Maybe you wanted results too much?

Like others guys said, you need completely break from PE for at least few months. Treat this break not as a act of helplessness, but as a first step for future success.

Forget about all those advanced techniques for conditioned dicks you already try, and start with newbie routine. Stick to good old stretches and jelqs, try to rediscover PE, not as a one and only way to improve your intimate life, but as a fun and adventure.

I know, its not magic formula, but sometimes easiest way is the best one. Just believe it. Just be sure of that.

PS. I also recommend you book by Joseph Murphy: “Power of Subconscious Mind”. ;)

You’ve got my cock when I started, minus a little bit of girth. However, unlike you I made my way through a mountain of pussy back in the day. I was also insecure about my dick, and very aware that just about anyone I fucked would have probably experienced a bigger dick than me. This caused me a fair bit of jealousy and mental anguish. However, the one thing that I DID have was an overwhelming NEED for pussy. This need for pussy drove me to go out and get it anyway. Going out and getting it anyway began a process of education where pussy was concerned. I soon saw that what I couldn’t give a chick with my dick, I could give her with my fingers….say, all four of them….or with an object (cucumber, carrot, and eventually dildos and extensions)….or with another type of sexplay altogether….say, the ever popular ramming of your smallish member back into the back of a chicks throat while you’re holding or pinning her there helplessly.

One of the alluring factors of monster cock is POWER and the problem you find yourself in is the misassumption on your part that a BIG DICK is the ONLY WAY you can hold sexual power over a woman.

Trust me, if you’re the first motherfucker to pin a bitch to the matress with your cock while 69’ing and then force her to deep throat it at the exact moment you bring her off by munching on her pussy, then in her mind, YOU’RE BIG….you’re BIG and SEXY and POWERFUL. At that moment she cares ZERO for how big that dick is because all she knows is that it’s certainly big enough to block her airway and make the tears come down like rain.

There are a TONS of ways to take power in sex which don’t involve having a big whang. Get busy exploring these. Here lies the kingdom.

I totally agree with wantsmore, just go out and screw around. You can do hundreds of other things with pussy other than use your dick. I also went through “mountains” of pussy and I was not huge, plus I had the common feeling that my dick was small. What I would do is go down on them and make them not care whether or not I was small then after they were satisfied that’s when I would get what I want. The more I did that the more I realized that I was a million times more concerned about my dick then the women I was with.

Just keep your head up and try and realize what is more important, satisfying the girl you are with, not how big your dick is. That will give you more “power in sex” than any size dick.

I really think that you have similar problems to me. Your dick size is not uncommon and is quite average. It can please any woman you are with.

My problem lies in confidence and talking to women. I like to think of myself as attractive, yet feel that I cannot ‘get’ women. I have no confidence in talking to women in general. This may be what is ailing you, and making you think you have a small member. It makes you think that this is the cause of your problems. You aren’t gaining with PE and you are not the most popular with the ladies. This has nothing to do with your dick size. It’s all confidence around women. Dick size MAY give you this, but probably wont. Girls don’t even see your member until its unveiled. Work on the confidence thing…I’ll join you! I think we can really help each other out. Feel free to pm me to discuss anything.

Just watch out for the ones that still have their teeth.

The great thing about this place we call “Earth” is that it has over 6 billion humans. That makes 3 billion women who you will never meet. Just go out and meet people and if you ever have a bad experience (less likely than a good experience) just forget about it and move on you will never see them ever again and they won’t be anywhere near your social network so whats the big deal? 99.99% of the people you see every day you will never meet or recognize ever again. I say pretend your penis is huge and do what you would normally do.

If you haven’t started hanging/ using a fulcrum hang, or static stretching, try those and put the time in. I’d say if you still can’t get much more of a gain, it’s time to find a doctor you can travel to that performs chemical pe. If you want it bad enough, you’ll find a way to make it work. Hang in there. We’re pulling for you at Thunder’s.

Well, Im currently in Serbia. I cant believe I found an internet cafe.

First off, Thunder, sorry if my post is missing apostraphes… I have no idea how this weird keyboard works, so my apology in advance.

Most of the replies here have focused on the mental. And you know what, you guys are right. It is mental. I have this huge fear of taking my pants off to bang some random chick and first thing she says is Ć Thats it!!! Ć My problem isnt talking with girls, believe me. I enjoy their company and can make them laugh with the snap of my finger. Only problem I have is with closing. I just cant close.

babbis… I agree with what you said about which routine to try next. I think that low tension ADS for long periods might actually work. I was trying this for a while and noticed my flaccid size increase, but couldnt stick with it long enough to notice the erect changes.

remek… I know you keep plugging it into my head and I know you think that it falls on deaf ears. But it doesnt. It falls on the ears of someone willing to take a leap. But honestly, something about the post you wrote finally clicked in. Im travelling by train and the battery on my ipod sucks. So, I have a lot of time to think. And I usually think about what Im going to do when I get back from my trip, but also I think about the past and good memories. I think of the memories I am making with my friends right now. You are also right when it comes to the PE break I should take. My job is currently on hiatus until January, so I have plenty of time to think things through. I really want to read up on the PUA community : too much game can never be a bad thing.

I think the PUA would be really good for me to because I usually rely on alcohol to give me the courage to talk to chicks. By the end of the night, Im too trashed to even think about sex let alone get an erection. I need game without booze. Good….game.

I wish I could respond to everyones post individually, but I cant. I come back from my trip on August 5th. Until then, I could only manage a post every once in a while when I get privacy from my friends and can find an internet cafe.

Believe me, all your words were very encouraging. And a few other lightbulbs have gone off in my head since writing the first post of this thread.

My goal right now is to get laid. T Minus 3 weeks.

I know I can do it.

Thats kind of a universal thing for most people isn’t it? =/

quik4life,

“I know I can do it”: truer words were never spoken! Man, I’m in your corner and I’m rooting for you.

For a long time I felt like you’ve been feeling, with about the same measurements too, and pretty much wasted my 20s by being too afraid to drop my pants for “random girls”. I had a few long-term girlfriends but I never “sowed my oats.” By the time I was 30, I’d only been with 4 women. One of them had these hairy legs - a pretty girl, but with the legs of a Yeti! Okay, maybe not Yeti - but she was pretty hairy, and insecure about it too, so she didn’t sleep around much. Then I ran into her again later and found out she was sleeping around a LOT. I asked if she’d gotten rid of the hair. “Nope,” she said, “I just stopped caring about it, and found out most guys don’t care about it either.” I took this to heart and never looked back, and since then have had nothing but fulfilling sexual experiences. Do I still wish I had a bigger dick? Obviously, or I wouldn’t be here. But that wish is only in my head. I wish I had a million bucks too, but not having that isn’t going to stop me from enjoying life! You only get one of those, as far as I know……

— and one more thing: yes, to be a good lover you have to use more than your dick, but you are NOT so small that that’s your only hope. Fingers and tongue, yes - but your dick is perfectly fine too, and you will find that out if you introduce it around a bit! Not trying to pick a quarrel with Wantsmore, but at 6” there is absolutely no need for you to use “cucumbers” or “extenders” unless you hook up with a bona fide size queen.

It could be worse man. I’m 23, and I haven’t had a full erection in almost 3 years.

But I won’t make this a bitching contest, my advice:

I honestly think you should find yourself a girl who’s never been layed, and yes, in this day and age, that means she’s going to be pretty unattractive most likely. Know that you don’t have to worry about shit with her, because she’s never had a bigger dick than yours, and because….well hell, you won’t CARE that much about what she thinks. Use that at as a starting point, develop as much sexual skill/experience/confidence as you can from there.

Hey, you can ‘not care about what she thinks’ whether she’s a virgin or experienced, for that matter. But is that what you really want? Sex based on indifference? And is that going to make you feel better about yourself?

No disrespect to Jackman2020, but that’s not a course that I would follow.

If both people agree that is the only thing they want, sex, and not babies or anything I think casual sex is great! Enjoy it while you can because some day you will be looking back on the “good old years” and be extremely pissed that you did not go all out. I went completely CRAZY in my 20’s and now that that option is no longer open to me I look back on those years with much fondness. Don’t rob yourself of one of the best times of your life, you will hate yourself for it later. Good luck and happy hunting!