All Day ADS

Little clarification: it’s tension based systems that attach to the leg that haven’t worked for me. It appears that the tightening-relaxing cycling during walking serves to toughen tissue rather than elongate it. An around the waist configuration avoids that, therefore might work.

Regarding the CC+HTW system: talk about cheap: each Cock Coil costs about $3, and a HTW is about $1.

I think the CC+HTW system offers more attributes and less detriments than any other ADS system that I’m aware of.

Anyhoo, just trying to help.

xeno

I still wouldn’t want to be placing raw lead on my dangles. Not with shaving or maybe having some small break in the skin that I wouldn’t know it’s there

Xeno, that is a very good point about the leg strap ADS’s. I’ve never thought of that. Cyclic stretching has been shown in vivo to have a much greater impact on connective tissue strength than permanent elongation. Good call.

The cock coil: I’ve been thinking about how to mitigate the lead hazards. In reality getting lead on the skin is not that big of a deal unless it gets into your bloodstream, but precautions never hurt. This is what I came up with: paint them!

I was a painter for a long time and this is what you would do essentially (I think).
1) wash the lead coil with trisodium phosphate to remove any oils or grime and let it dry completely
2) etch the coil with vinegar or use a self-etching primer (a more costly solution). If using vinegar, just wet a rag with white vinegar and briefly wipe it down. This creates lead acetate and I’m not sure if that’s toxic, so wear a mask. Let the coil dry.
3) paint the coil with DTM (direct to metal) paint. They make both acrylic and alkyd versions, alkyd is the more durable choice. Put on as many coats as you feel necessary to seal in the lead.

An alternative approach (a bit more costly):
After etching the lead with an acid, prime the coil with XIM primer (kem kromik would probably work too), then paint the dried primer with whatever, oil paint, fingernail polish, spray paint, epoxy, elastomeric. XIM is the big daddy of primers, you can use it on anything - glass, metal, ceramic tile, many plastics, bondo - and it should work fine on etched lead.

You’re not paying attention: CC is covered by shrink wrap tubing.

I’m going to check out of this thread; you need to help your self at some point.

xeno

Okay I didn’t understand that part until after I posted. No need to be a dick about it. Plus I still would look at other alternatives if shrink wrap is the only thing used for protection, what if it gets nicked? You even state in that thread that the epoxy is used to reduce not eliminate “lead migration”. Not to mention the dangers of preparation alone. Don’t get me wrong it’s a great idea I just think there would be better alternatives. Have you tried the soldering idea suggested towards the end of that thread?

No need for a personal attack; the need is simply for you to read more carefully.

I would recommend adopting the conduct that I do; nothing sharp is allowed near my dick. Failing that, simple periodic, perhaps daily?, inspection of the CC will reveal whether it is nicked or not. Seriously, unless you’re a cracked out sushi chef that likes to wield his ginsus while naked, this is not a rational concern.

My stated caution was presented in an abundance of caution in consideration of the…ah, lets just call it ‘the lowest common denominator’; your reading comprehension notwithstanding, I’m sure that you’re not in that category, and therefore, for you, it’s not a rational concern.

Seriously? You don’t think that this is sufficient?

Or perhaps you didn’t understand that part either?

This aught to alleviate your irrational concern: I’ve been using a pair of CCs for something like 8 years now; about a year a go I got a heavy metals test (totally unrelated to my CC use); my Pb level was 0.6 μg/dL where the CDC reference level (indicative of Pb exposure) is 5.0 μg/dL (Blood lead level - Wikipedia).

No; the specific gravity of Pb is the principle desirable attribute of the CC.

roots, thank you for your obviously careful reading of the CC thread. If, in spite of my efforts to alleviate the irrational exposure concern, if one wants to go to that extra level of effort to provide extra containment, then by all means, proceed. Be aware, however, that after specific gravity, the next most desirable attribute of the presented CC construction is preservation of ductility of the pencil lead; that may be compromised to some degree by the thickness of paint applied. Which brings up the third most desirable attribute: low profile; this may be compromised as well, relative to the presented construction method, by the paint thickness.

Worth trying though, I’d say, if the irrational exposure concern can’t be overcome.

Toodles,

xeno

Xeno, not a problem, the shrink wrap would work fine and be cheaper anyhow, the paint would be the extreme precaution. But even if painted it can chip or get gouged, so regular inspection would still be required. Applying too much vinegar would significantly degrade the lead as well. Lead will actually dissolve completely in vinegar, so you would have to be careful.

All in all, your way makes more sense and is easier. Plus, getting lead on your skin really isn’t a big deal if you wash after. I use lead fishing weights all the time and I haven’t had any issues yet. :)

Roots

Another cool thing about the CC+HTW system: you can uncoil the CC while it’s on your penis, thereby stretching said penis to nearly BPFSL. As such, one can have BOTH a weighted ADS and a Traction ADS at the same time. Frankly, in that configuration, it can, practically speaking, function more as a primary PE method than a supplemental one. I find that using it in a stress relaxation strategy (starting out very stretched and sequentially reducing the degree of stretch through the day) maintains an excellent level of tissue fatigue after hanging.

xeno

Yes, that makes sense. Like stretching out a spring. So when you put it on you would just twist the whole thing (ends towards each other) to add some compression to keep it in place, and twist the whole thing the other way to loosen it to take it off or pee?

Yep, just twist against the coil direction to loosen and whiz away…completely without any compression. When done whizzing, twist it back the other way (in the direction of coil) to re-tighten (and if you so choose, stretch out the coil and thus your penis underneath it)…zip up, and away you go.

Easy peasy.

xeno

I have a lead slug rolled up in plastic in the end of an “es140”, and then I roll what is left onto the tip of my glans. It usually stays on all night, but once in awhile it gets knocked off or something. I like the fact it is barely being held on, and I sleep better knowing it would fall off before it would cause any damage.

I like the Vac 3 more during the day. I use MB’s stealth cap if I am out in public.

Do you use tape with the “es140”? I never got blisters from mine, but I sure looked ugly after wearing it for a few hours. I like Monkey’s stuff because there is extra room for the head, and his stuff works good with tape.

Well that does it, I’m making one. I have trouble sticking with a regular ADS because they all, to some extent or another, take too long to put on. The cock coil sounds perfect, like I could apply it in seconds. Even the three to five minutes I take to apply PE weights or the theraband ADS is too long for my taste. I want it to go on almost instantly, that is my most important quality in an ADS, followed by stealth. Force is a distant third since I’m not really using the ADS as a primary method for gains, just for anti-turtling (which I don’t see as “make or break” important anyhow).

I thought you to be well above average in PE intelligence; now I am certain.

xeno

I don’t know how much weight you are looking at for ADS, but I have been putting on 2 golf weights, 1, 1 1/8” steel o-ring, then I put on a 1” steel o-ring, back just far enough to leave a little skin for a shoulder. I wrap a little Ace band-aid over the 1’ o-ring, then slide the 1 1/8 ” o-ring over the Ace band-aid followed by the golf weights.

The Ace band-aid just helps to keep the shouldering skin from bumping on stuff, avoids pinching and adds a bit to the shoulder. I can wear this all day. Peeing is no problem. I may have to increase the size of the o-rings soon, as the 1” o-ring is getting harder to get on and off as my girth has been increasing.

I think the golf weights are about 5.5 ozs each.

Haha okay thanks for clearing everything up xeno. I feel like a gosh darn fool now. It must be a wonderful thing to have a brain of your caliber. This CC probably isn’t for me so I’m going to go back to coloring with crayons and drawing smiley faces in the sand now.