Hmmmmm....

Thunder,

First off, I’m also coming from DARRENS website. Anyway, this new guy Ferrari is recruting a lot of guys from Darrens website. Don’t know if Darren and him are in it but he seems pretty good. But now i see that he is actually taking excercises learned here and pretty much taking credit for them. I am very serious about PE but with so much scam and BS out there, its kind of hard to seperate the real from the fake.

Can you please email me and get me started on PE. Don’t know if the Exercises on Darrens website are legit or if I should be doing something else.

Hey quik,

Welcome aboard!!! You have to have learned something of value at Darren’s. Start out by reading the info here:

PE FAQ

That will get you started. There is a ton of infomation here on the forums, learn how to use the search function and you should be able to find info on anything you wish. If you can not find it, post the question and I’m sure someone will help.

I don’t see why you are getting so worked up about ferrari and his site. Alright he borrowed some of your exercises but he even admits this when he explains how to do them he says he just modified them a bit. As for him being Darren or like Darren thats just complete rubbish, when Darren deserted his members Ferrari was there to help them, he also speaks of you site and praises it. I believe Ferrari to a genuine guy who has made gains himself and now wants to help others, which is exactly what he is doing, his site is not a pay site so there is no money to be made from it. I think you should give him a break i mean we all do pe for the same reasons so why does it matter where we get the information from. I use 3 sites myself all which i find excellent those are yours, peforum and ferraris site, cheers

Hey jtl,

One way for Ferrari to prove me wrong is to post where he got the exercises and give credit to the guys that actually came up with them.

Also, the reason I am getting so worked up about it is, if this guy is scamming, he is targeting the same bunch of guys that have just been fucked over by Darren. And I would not put this kind of deception above Darren. The guy is slick, not a dumb ass as he appears to be to his forum members.

I’ll leave it alone now, you guys just keep your eyes open this time, OK?

you know about 1 1/2 yrs ago i came acroos a site called free penis enlargement exercises i beleive was the name but it was close.and they had a exercise where you clamped on base of penis and then pumped kegel muscle to fill penis then u made a ok sign and ran it tightly over the head and down shaft toward clammped hand.now this Dr. claimed he made this exercise up over 10 yrs ago but sound a little familar wouldnt you say.and me i do a exersice where i stetch my penis up toward bellie button and do 50 slow hard kegels.i thought i made it up but reading your site i see many similar variasions of this.so who cares who made up something has long as it help people towards ther pe goals.i think edison said the moment you think an ideal its been mad several time somewhere else.the point being many humans with commons goals and interests will come up with ideals similar to each other completely indepentantly. jimid

Hey jimid,

When you get a chance, read the Forum Guidelines at this Link.

I don’t think it’s OK when someone deliberately steals someone else’s work and then claims it as their own - no “ifs”, “buts” or “maybes”!!!! It’s a very sleazy and dishonest way to build an instant reputation among people who, for the most part, don’t know any better. So, he’s helping people now, is he? Because of his bald faced lies, people now think he knows something - he gets credit and kudos for his lying and stealing. Is that right? Is that fair? Would you trust a person like this?

Ferrari is traveling a dead end street and it’s going to terminate with a head-on smash. The crash-test dummies will not survive …….

lil1 :flame:

Hey LiL,

Where do you come up with the animations? Are you in multimedia or something? Just curious.

Jelktoid

Hey all. First I’d just like to say that I’m a lover not a fighter :) As for this issue, I really can’t form an opinion. I mean, after thousands of years of men PEing, do you really think it’s possible that horse from your forum “invented” this exercise? Even if this were the case, I’d be willing to bet people have “invented” it before him. Doesn’t this leave the possibility that Ferrari as well may have “invented” it?

I’m not saying this is what I think is the case, but it’s food for thought.

Great gains to all!
Trance

Jelqtoid,
Multimedia has always attracted me - film, Flash, animated gifs - I love fiddling around with them. I’ve had jobs where I’ve done it professionally (not that you’d notice! :chuckle: ) but my role has mostly been as a writer. I enjoy it and if it helps others, so much the better. :)

Tranceology,
I’d be a little more generous of my treatment of Ferrari if I didn’t already know that he did steal it from either here or PE Forums ……. he’s been a regular visitor. In his favor, at least he knows the best places to steal from! ;)
lil1 :littleguy

Lil,

I’ll speak with him about it when he returns from Holiday. Sheesh, I wish we had that in the States!!!

BTW, I don’t think Ferrari means any harm or wrongdoing (in my opinion.) I think this is a hobby of his, and he’s just trying to help people who are confused “find the light” so to speak ;)

Trance