Many (myself included) will never, never, never put pictures of their penis on their computer, much less the internet. Call us prudish, unthankful, whatever. Posting about penises is not the same as having electronic copies that might be forgotten to be deleted of the camera or computer hard drive for the kids or wife/GF (for those of us who never told our partners that we have done PE) to find.
I remember from way back in the day (no, I don’t have a link) Bib’s 11.5 inch flaccid was stretched, I think bone pressed length, which is the most consistent way to measure gains. It wasn’t flaccid hang length. I certainly can’t prove that he gained all that he said he gained, but I was around when he was constantly on the PE forums giving out free advice and taking Q & A about his free instructions to build your own Bib hanger, before he started to produce them himself. Many have gained with his free advice, and with hangers they paid him for. He doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as DLD, who pretty much ripped off free information, gave it a new spin, learned some camera trickery, and went to market.