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marinera — I would have to agree with you wholeheartedly.

dtwarren1942 — I would have to agree with you also. How do you quantify gains when everyone incorporates different exercises, routines & time commitments, rhetorically speaking? So the data must be taken with a grain of salt, however that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t provide some appreciative, useful information as to what a person might realistically expect. It also should help members realize how variable results can be from one person to another. What I find most important is that regardless of how long it took to reach certain gains, most did gain; and that’s what I think we need to focus on.

I believe I personally set realistic goals, but I also believe my goals should have a 50/50 chance of reaching. In other words, I set goals that I believe are achievable, but not be discouraged if I don’t reach them. I may need to extend my time horizon. At the same time, I didn’t want to set a ridiculously impossible goal that will only set me up for disappointment.

I’ve been on the newbie linear routine for three weeks and I don’t know if its my EQ that’s increased or I measured a little sloppy three weeks ago. I have gained from 14-15cm (0.4 inch). What do you guys believe?

Fast Newbie gains are to be expected … Congratulations.

It is encouraging and helps to keep you consistent to your routine.

The only caution is to not allow yourself to get disapointed if you don’t get another half inch in month 2.

The key is to STAY CONSISTENT!


Starting (10 / 2011): 6.50 BPEL, 5.50 MEG

Current: 7.50 BPEL, 6.00 MEG

Goal: 8.50 BPEL 6.50 MEG

Thanks! I’m gonna stay as consistent as possible, now that I know about PE I don’t think I will quit through my whole life xD

Do you have any recommendations for what I should do after Linear routine?

Ty

Raverfox: Congrats! If I recall I gained 1/2 inch my first month and about 3/4 inch in three months. All lig gains of course!

One factor may be that I think a lot of people quit when gains stop. They may take a long break and pick it up again and say that, “I gained X amount in 2 years.” Maybe some data on newbie gains would be good, say first 3 to 6 months. I think the results would be a bit higher.

You gain how you gain, and what your body will allow. How quick you gain, I think mainly has to do with how quickly you can recover. For me I gain a permanent, cemented, guaranteed, bare minimum of 1 inch every 4 years. Some might be able to gain 1-2 inches in a year, and then nothing for the next few years after. Slow and steady wins the race for me.

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Raverfox: Congrats! If I recall I gained 1/2 inch my first month and about 3/4 inch in three months. All lig gains of course!

One factor may be that I think a lot of people quit when gains stop. They may take a long break and pick it up again and say that, “I gained X amount in 2 years.” Maybe some data on newbie gains would be good, say first 3 to 6 months. I think the results would be a bit higher.

Wow great gains! I’ve got a feeling I’m gonna stick to this for life, in one way or another. I love the feeling after a workout so I don’t think I will stop, even though I’m gonna hit a plateau. It’s ridiculous how my sexual view has changed since I went to this website, Thunder’s Place has changed me forever.. :D

For what it’s worth, I was always interested only in length gains using a penis extender. I started in Oct. ‘10 and did four months and about 450 hours of extending, and gained about .4” inches of most likely ligament stretch at that time. That was encouraging. Out of experimentation I then the bought the Vac Extender attachment for my extender, then did another 300 hours over the next 4 months. Gains were about .2” during that time if I recall. Seeing the slow rate plus many blisters from the V-E device, I then went back to noose extending for the following 10 months/600 hours, and saw even slower growth, maybe .1” for the entire period. That was pretty disappointing. That’s where I am now.

I think two things may be going on with the reduced growth. One is the ligaments are tapped out. I got about .75”, but they are done. Then I think my reduced routine to only 2 hours day might have been another factor during this time. Perhaps it only served as a tread-water maintenance routine, and did offer enough for additional growth. At any rate, I have not seen any observable gains since about December of last year, and indeed it is discouraging. I am not a quitter and recently went back to 4 hours a day of noose extending, which is about all I can handle. I have faith more gains are coming from some place in the penis if only because the Madrid study showed patients gaining well past 1 inch and 1,000 hours of extending. The patients in that study showed gains up to 2 inches by 1800 hours.

Amen to that Rhino. I’m with ya. At least we’re having gains. If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. So keep it up as I’m sure time will answer your goals.

@Rhinoguy Do you have a link to this study please ? :)

Try this: . If that link goes dead (most of them do in time), then try Googling “1st Virtual Sexology and Hispanoamerican Sexual Education Congress, Madrid, Spain 2001” which should give some hits.

The study is published so it’s not going away. The results clearly show that the sample population produced length gains, which is what I am interested in, well beyond one thousand hours of extending. It also says something about the sample size being unreliable past about the fourth month as participants dropped out, but apparently it did not think the sample size was insufficient to draw more conclusions. I am out of statistics these days and need a review, but I believe certainty goes way down with under 25 or so samples, which means they probably had less persons in the population to study at that time. Makes sense, when you consider they were running the regimen for 10 hours 7 days a week for months on end, that’s a lot of time with a contraption attached to your dick and even some of the most ardent users would probably get tired of it after a few months and dropped out of the study. Those who stuck it out almost certainly were still seeing gains which is why they kept going past 3-4 months. That would have skewed the sample and made you think anyone who sticks it out will gain on to infinity, which may not be the case at all.

I suspect that many men stop gaining at about an inch of length gains due mostly to the ligaments getting tapped out. That would certainly fit my experience working on my penis 1100 hours at this point. After about 750 hours it was very slow going and still is. The interesting takeaway from the Madrid study is that “some specimens” were able to continue growing past one inch at around 1,000 hours and continued progressing all the way to 2 inches and 2,000 hours when the study concluded. The big question is, does this possibility exist for all male penises and why. I have not done a ton of study of penis anatomy but my understanding is that tunica growth is not possible for all penises, which is where subsequent growth would need to come from.

Correction- I made a mistake in converting to inches above. The Madrid study seems to show results of about 1.3 inches of length gain by 1800 hours, assuming the participants actually did their full 10 hours of extending per day.

I make less than 0.10” per year in length and I PE at least 5 days / week. :)

I have gained almost 1.5” in length since the beginning though, now the gains are really hard.


It takes time and devotion.

Axrhistos, now that’s what I call dedication. Did you find a routine that works best for you? I would imagine at that rate of growth (ie barely detectable) you must have wondered a lot whether your must optimal was to be doing more PE or less PE etc. I’m curious what you converged on and how you handled deciding whether to go lighter or heavier etc.

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