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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by kdong
If there is any elastin (there must be because it does stretch flaccid to erect) then stretching the cord should result in more elastin and collagen production like in the rest of the tunica. That is the whole mechanism behind PE gains.

One would hope. But the issue for some of us is that this dorsal thickening is so dense and inelastic that stretching it starts to feel like a near impossibility. Okay, maybe not an impossibility, but damn difficult.


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Originally Posted by marinera
The penis should have a curved shape also, depending on where the ‘limiting factor’ is located. Actually, I don’t want to push the nerves of anyone, but this ‘limiting factor’ is just a supposition. There is nothing backuping the idea that this ‘cord’ that some people have and somebody don’t have is limiting anything.

Here’s why I think this is important. If I grasp my glans and pull my flaccid penis to full extension, the only structure that becomes tight and hard is the dorsal surface. If I could get under it, I could pluck it like a guitar string. The bottom (ventral) surface stays soft and pliable. This happens essentially at all tugging angles.

Also, it is known that the dorsal thickening is the densest part of the tunica. From our own Wiki,
"The tunica albuginea is thickest between the 11 and 1 o’clock positions (called the "dorsal thickening") and between the 3 and 5 o’clock positions (called the "paraurethral ridge")." Tunica


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Ok on the dorsal thickening. But as I understand it, it doesn’t feel like a tendon. And everyone (or at least most of people) have the dorsal thickening.

Wait, see if this pic illustrate in someway what you are speaking of.

(This time it is a photo of a penis, so maybe is not kosher in Main section).

That penis looks like it might be skinned.

I’m not sure what that’s showing, but I can tell you that my dorsal thickening isn’t a bulge or really anything you can see from the outside. It’s an internal structure that can be easily felt but not seen.


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Well nobody will understand what those pics were showing since they were deleted.

Photo attached to #64. I don’t see them, maybe is a problem related with my browser don’t know.

Another one (warning! degloved penis, disturbing)

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Marinera,

I fucked up and deleted the photo. I should have sent you a PM. At any rate, I’m glad it’s back. The original (deleted and now restored) photo shows a fractured tunica. The tunica tore and required a surgical repair. The tear appears to be slightly to the left of the dorsal thickening.

549_f1.jpg shows a case of Peyronie’s Disease, which is affecting the dorsal surface of the penis. This is not the same as the dorsal thickening I’m talking about above.

1048885-1061264-2710.jpg shows a bulging CS, which is on the ventral side of the penis (opposite the dorsal thickening).


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Yes it’s not the dorsal thickening, MM.

There is maybe a problem of communication. Does the dorsal thickening feel as a ‘chord’ or a tendon? I think dorsal thikening means that the dorsal face, the upper side, of the tunica, is thicker than the ventral side. I have a dorsal thickening as anyone else I suppose, but I don’t feel any chord as ‘limiting factor’.

The tendon I hear to speak about from other members as ‘limiting factor’ could be more similar to this scar production that you see in the 549_f1.jpg, that’s what I was figuring.

At this point I don’t know if you and other people are speaking about the same thing when referring to the Dorsal thickening/septum. Septum is something that is in the middle of two objects, quite different than dorsal thickening.

Or maybe I just am misunderstanding this whole discussion, if so never mind.

About the other pic, in a hurry I attached the wrong photo, sorry.

This is a great discussion. Having been really discouraged by this “cord” over the last few months it’s good to hear others opinions. I’m surprised there is much debate as to whether one has one or not. If you have it you certainly know. It’s like a cable inside a sock. It doesn’t matter how much the sock stretches, once the cord reaches max length that’s it. Stretching up to this point is easy but stops dead at max. With serious force, it will not budge 1mm past it’s max. I literally feel tugging on the anus, but the cord itself will not stretch.

I wonder if those who don’t seem to feel this just haven’t stretched all the surrounding tissue sufficiently to reach the point that the “cord” becomes a factor. It could be that for some of us our pre-pe or genetic length is limited by this from the start or early on while others have a significant (cord) length but have been limited by surrounding tissue. Am I making any sense?

All these theories are interesting, but my question is whether or not those who definitely have this cord have seen any gains at all beyond the point it became a factor? I’ve been holding off measuring, but it “feels” like I’ve made some progress by jelqing just before stretches, in my imagination having broken down the tissues before they are stretched. I also feel the cord least when I do BTC stretches so I’ve been doing extra sets of those. I’m scheduled to measure on Mar 20th, but definitely worried I’ll be disappointed. If I can see just a few mm’s I’ll be encouraged.

TrouserWhole describes it properly:

“It’s like a cable inside a sock.”

Once its tight like a cable, I believe you will show no new tunica length gains. You may get length from stronger engorgements but thats it.

Last summer when I was pegged against the dorsel thickening/septum for 6 months without budging any new length gains, heated fulcrum hanging released nearly .500” new BPEL and BPFSL lengths.

I really think this is where its at.

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