Length First Girth Second.

It IS baloons, or “cyllinders”, wrapped with a rubber..

That is what it is.

You also have to fight different tissues, ligiments, septum ( dense area of tissues between the cc’s ), tunica, etc.

However - I prescribe to the cyllindrical balloons wrapped with a condom theory.

This reminds me of the old bodybuilding “hypertrophy vs. hyperplasia” muscle building argument.

You assume that length gain = tissue growth, but this is not necessarily true. Length gain can come in several different ways: ligament release, ligament stretch, increased EQ, fat pad loss… what is true, is that the inner structures of the penis are wrapped in several layers of connective tissue, and that the fibers in these tissues run in different directions. Exercises that stretch these fibers in one direction may not necessarily hit the other fibers: exercises that weaken or tear these fibers in one direction may not necessarily weaken or tear them in another.

I regularly pumped with an oversized tube for more than 10 years, experienced generous girth gains, but only modest, temporary length gains. I believe that this is because I a) did not hit the ligs at all using this technique b) did not hit the longitudinal fibers. If penile anatomy were as simple as “overstretching the balloons so that they can be refilled with more air”, as I believed back in ‘91, I’d probably be worrying about my cock poking through the cuff of my pant leg right about now… :D

GM

The part of the penis currently outside of the body is literally a couple of bladders wrapped with a tissue. Hense the cyllindrical ballons wrapped with a rubber.

The inner penis of course, most is not exposed due to ligs holding that up close to the body. The inner penis is the same thing as what you see outside your body..

The inner penis is 1/3 to 1/2 of the penis length on most of us.

On some of us, if the supsensitory ligaments weren’t holding the inner penis so tight to the pubis, we’d have more visible erect length - with no loss of integrity over people born this way.

If people agree that weights and/or static stretchers can produce growth by way of tissue traction, then we agree that tunica length gains are possible.

With the force inline with the inner penis, one can also produce TRACTION on the inner penis. Inner penis would express itself outside of the body.

On so many people, the easiest gains come in simply losing weight. Many people have half an inch to an inch that can be expressed visibly, by getting lean enough.

Some are saying “healing in the extended state” is underrated, and all that really is needed is a very light tension on the unit, even 1lb perhaps after the bulk of the work is done.

It is being said, that ligs and tissues are mostly healed or closed around 100hrs.

So I’m fancying, doing a heavy work, and then extended state with 1lbs of force tops for 20 out of 24 hrs in the day for the 100hrs could hit this target.

Were all still figuring out whats working, but one thing for sure. I am growing and the ruler backs it up.

Some of the things I’m doing, your not really suppsed to do, but works.

Another thing, that I quote which still hasen’t been accepted.

Theres alot of guys in the 150-190lbs range. Then there are some in the 250-300lbs range and even higher.

The bigger guys, if you lose weight - you will show more erect length than your BPEL at the heavy weight, due to the fact that your cock strength is stronger at a lighter weight. I noticed this the few times I dropped my weight.

Drinking is what takes my weight up there. I’m about to fix it again and document.

In anycase, thats some of my two cents for you guys.

Oh, one of the things I’m doing that I’m not supposed to is pumping after a extender or weights session. It seems that the extender or weights allows the tunica to be more plyable.

I’m jumping right into this pump after the session, and the pump session shows more growth in lenght and girth than without.

My final solution, is a long term cock ring wear, where penis is jelqued to a tuminicent state. The cock ring must allow enough blood flow for long term wear, and I’m hearing this Stallion Cock Cushion does just that.

It will hold most of the work done, allowing the penis to heal in an extended state.

Tuminicent?

"Blood engorged” is what I mean.

Why are members like BeaverCreek ex-members already? He just joined in June and he replied a few days ago. It’s the second time I’ve seen that in the past couple days(I think someone with the name Coal). Are they being kicked out for any reason?

Sorry to be so off topic but I’m curious.

They all have some sort of history, if you take my meaning.

I’m going to have to agree with this. I gained length easy and early in my pe career and now I’m having a heck of a time gaining girth.

MAxxx, according to your stats, you gained 2” BPEL and .75” EG. Gains like that, I believe, are well above average, even for people who have PE’ed for years. In and of itself, the fact that your gains have slowed or stalled at this point is not really evidence one way or the other. You’ve already gained 3/4” of Girth WHILE gaining length: this is a huge increase for Girth, maybe you are just tapped out or are in need of a change.

I understand what your saying but the total gains have been over the period of the past 6 years and with a 1 year decon last year. I’m honestly happy with my gains just want more girth no length.
On the othe hand my routines were always seperate. I would work on length for 6 weeks then girth 6 weeks then a 2 week decon. I just think I do need a change and it will start with another decon next month.

Personaly I feel that for me any way working length and girth seperatly helped a lot, but it may not work for every one.

Hmm interesting.

Do not overlook the possibility that your preferred PE techniques and methods may favor length over girth.

GM

Or the fact that a lot people complain about it being difficult to gain girth.

While I have gained in ways that are satisfactory in terms of length my girth gains came along for the ride.

What I”m saying here is that length exercises could very well, like myself, produce girth gains as a normal result.

On the other hand girth gains don’t necessarily produce significant length gains and, unlike others here, Girth comes easily with diligent girth exercises.

Seems that there are some consequences to girth exercises such as having more difficult time applying a hanger with more girth volume to deal with.

A thought about this is interesting also. Length gains are had from static stretching whereas girth exercises using a clamp is Hydraulic internal pressure.