my progress - negative positivity

I had nothing to say about him gaining, I just saed I felt The same as others who have less than large members. Secjay, the question stands. Id like to know if you were always big or if you just got massive gains.

I wont pretend im not jellous but Im certenly not a hater. Im happy for anyone to get more gains but it comes off as greedy just like a millionare wanting more money(even if he deserves it or has a good reason) a poor person sees it as greed.

Who is relitivly new?

If you read some of secjays older posts you’ll know that he doesn’t know what to attribute to puberty and what to PE (with some way out techniques).

Doc thats all fair enough. But at exactly what point does need become want or want become greed? This is something that has been bashed to death over and over on here and I refuse to restate any of it.

Nice one memento, great to know I have at least one fan :)

He was right, doc, my first ever measurement I took was when I was only 14 or so years old and it was about 17cm length. So I guess I started out relatively long yes. But not massively long.

Girth I never really measured till recently so I really dont know how much I’ve gained in this respect. I estimate 0.5”-1” or so. who cares. All I know is that I want more.

And mem was right when he said I don’t know how much to attribute to PE and to puberty. I didnt start pe til I was about 16-17, and by that time I believe I had pretty much finished pubic growth and stood at that time at about 20cm i guess.

(I should really write up a history to the best of my memory, I hate having to guesstimate all the time to answer q’s like this) :(

so to answer your question, yes I started out fairly long. But not particularly thick. And I hardly started out a porn star seeking to increase my already rediculous tool.

I have had quite respectable gains, but then again, I’ve been at it for a long, long time.

Secjay

Talk to dld he seems to always break any girth plateaus. I don’t know about the horse shoe things but you been at this pe for a long time maybe you should try them. I have started to work a few into my workout I really don’t understand how they would work but I dont have that much time so I’m trying for a short intense workout. Secjay don’t worry bro your young and blessed your girth will come sooner or later but it will come!

Dino

A guy’s feelings towards the size of his penis has less to do with the real size and it’s position in the percentage scale, and much more to do with the guy’s psychology, experience, the partners he’s been with, the partner his with at the moment.

Look at dld, he’s huge by most people standards but he doesn’t feel this way, so what does it matter how big he really is? He wants to get bigger like the rest of us. That’s what brings us together in this forum, we all want the same thing, regardless of our starting point.

I never thought the guys that are bigger than me are trying to show off with their size, and I never felt it was tactless of them to speak about their goals, even if they were goals I will probably never reach. This place is about talking about all these things openly, that’s the whole point isn’t it? So why try to censor anything?

I started at 13, now 5 years later I have gained less than 1/2 inch lenth and girth. I am very greedy but to no aveal. What is your ultimate goal?

Dino, I am in contact with dld, and thanks for the encouragement.

Braker thanks for the kind words. You really are a guy with greater understanding and insight of others than most.

Doc: It’s strange that you didn’t experience the main puberty growth spurt that supposedly occurs between 14 and 15th birthdays (Read this in a survey by jackinworld.com)

How are your other maturation features such as muscle growth and fascial hair going? Maybe you’re just a late starter, not impossible… If you want to talk more about this or anything else feel free to PM me.

To answer your question about my ultimate goal is a difficult one. I don’t think I could put exactly number on it. But suffice to say that I won’t be entirely happy until I truly feel that I am filling my girlfriend completely.

We had a chat today and she asked me if I thought she was too loose. What an awkward question to ask a guy!

I was as tactful as possible, and without insulting her I’ve convinced her to start doing kegels regularly and properly. :)

Maybe we can meet in the middle somewhere instead of putting all the pressure on me. So in regards to the ‘ultimate size goal’ thing, I think, without mentioning numbers, that I will continue this PE lark until my growth potential is exhausted, eg when it becomes not worthwhile the time I have to put into obtaining measureable results…

And even then, I’ll only take an extended break and come back for another round… Need anything more specific?

my puberty has been very acward, Ive had a mustache since 13 arm pit hair started about 16. muscle growth… none really because Ive worked out 5 days a week since i was 10. I wasnt even able to ejaculate until age 17. My voice was never in the squeeky stage but is currently very deep. Ive only in the past few months began to grow any kind of beard and not much of one at that(1/8inch tops). Ive had pubic hair since 12 or 13 but only on my balls then te other hair came much later. Now I have(if i didnt shave) full hair but the hair on my scrotum is alot less than it was.

can your wife/gf/fuckbudy take all of your member? If so have you ever tryed anal with her or anyone. Id like to know how a girl reacts to someone that big

Doc, you seem to be a slightly odd specimen, if you dont mind me saying.

Maybe you just have groth to catch up. I wouldn’t worry too much if I was you, unless you have some hormonal problem which by the sounds of the hair and voice etc seems not to exist.

I already said that my GIRLFRIEND can take the entire length of it…

and no we have not tried anal (she does not want to) and no I haven’t had anal with anyone else before.

as for ‘what are her reactions?’ could you please be more specific?

As in physical? emotional? verbal? what are you getting at?

To Secjay and others who may have taken offense: don’t get me wrong. I’m not into censorship. Say whatever you like freely. You’re right, that’s what this forum is all about. But if you are going to make provocative comments then expect a reply.

Secjay sounds like a heck of a nice guy. He’s no brash-mouthed punk, that’s for sure. But Secjay, look at your goals. 10” is not big, it’s HUGE. Any girl that doesn’t feel filled with that- SHE’S GOT THE PROBLEM, not you. Maybe she doesn’t have a cervix, because I’ve heard many girls say that anything over 8” causes pain to their cervix. Now, of course your girlfriend has a cervix (she’s human- isn’t she?- oops, maybe she’s from another planet and she never told you). If you are really 10”, and I am assuming you are being honest, then it is almost beyond belief that your girlfriend can handle it with no problem.

Listen, the bottom line is, why is it bothering you so much? Why do you want an Anaconda between your legs that no woman can ever fully take? That really sounds like an ego problem. Of course you are entitled to any desire you want (redundant?) BUT your desires tell a lot about your psyche. I’m struggling to reach 7” because I KNOW a lot of women prefer bigger than 6 inches. But am I going to lose sleep if I don’t reach 8”?? Hell NO. And here you are worried that 10” isn’t long enough to make your girlfriend scream with pain. If she can take all of you, she is UNUSUAL, because you are UNUSUALLY long. Those are the FACTS. Over time a woman’s vagina adjusts to the size of her sex partner. There is a limit though, and apparently your girlfriend has an unusually elastic vagina that has allowed her to accomodate your incredibly large member. You should be HAPPY about that. Do you really want her to feel pain? If so, then check yourself out.

Just remember the old saying: But careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.

Good luck, and be well.

But he doesn’t want her to feel pain, he wants her to feel pleasure. And he said that she asked for more. He’s doing it for his girlfriend, not for his ego. I’m sure if his girlfriend would say that anything more than 8 hurts her, he would stop right there.

It doesn’t matter if it’s his girlfriend who is different, he loves her and wants her to feel satisfied, so what’s the problem here?

The only thing that might be problematic is if he will ever be with another woman who will have a hard time taking all this length. But hey - then he can start a new forum and pioneer the PR technique (penis reduction) :)

Thanks for continuing this as a peaceful and valid conversation instead of letting it degenerate into some kind of unpleasantness.

though I feel misunderstood…
The thing I am (and have been for ages) concerned with is my lack of progress in the girth department, which I feel that I would like more of due to my own reasons.

I was bummed out because not not only is my girth not quite sufficient for my girlfriend (or so I feel) but now she can take my entire length as well! Which I thought I would not have to work on at all, but which now seems to be falling behind, just as my girth is. or rather, has been all along.

And of course she has a cervix and everything else. infact I can’t go too deep unless she’s already had a clitoral orgasm via tongue. But once she has, her cervix virtually dissapears and she tells me to go deeper; in her own words: “I never thought I’d say this, but, go as deep as you can!”

But thats not the point. I want to be able to fill her completely no matter how aroused. I want to be able to reach and stretch out every little sensitive square inch of tissue, which I don’t feel I am quite doing as effectively as I could with a bit more size.

point being that in my current situation, no matter how far fetched or even rediculous it may sound to you, I feel inadequate, and I am simply voicing my concerns, as anyone else here has just as much right to do regardless of size or anything else.

I wont go further because I am getting the feeling that the more words I type, the more confusion/argument I will breed. :(

Braker, you are correct. Upon re-reading Secjay’s previous posts, I agree with your correction that he’s not looking to cause his girlfriend any pain. And that is commendable. Sorry for the negative implication. And Secjay, as I said before, you have every right to want what you want. But since this is an open forum, when you discuss issues for everyone to read, please accept that someone like myself might question your ideas. This is not an AA meeting where everyone encourages everyone else no matter what they say. I don’t think it is healthy to believe that you must be so big that your girlfriend will never be able to take all of you no matter how much her vagina stretches and adapts. If you and Braker think that’s the goal, then go for it. But I think it’s a pretty unrealistic expectation. A woman’s vagina can stretch and grow a lot more easily than a man’s penis (unfortunately?). I think somehow nature never intended men to have penises so large that any woman would not be able to handle the whole thing. What would be the purpose of that? And I think you and maybe your girlfriend are under a false impression that being even bigger would give her more pleasure. Something seems very odd to me that a woman would require more than 10 inches to reach maximum pleasure. If that were true than there would be no debate at all that bigger is always better and the bigger the better. And you made a good point. If for some reason you and your present girlfriend go your separate ways and you find someone new, you probably will be too big for the new girlfriend and have to really hold back until she can get used to you, if she can.

That’s why I still think it’s an obsession. To want something so out of the ordinary so much that you feel you really must get the thing you want so badly while overlooking the possible and probable downsides is an obsession. We all have them over different things and different times in our lives. But obsessions, no matter what they are, are not positive things and usually lead to problems.

You are right it’s not an AA meeting, it would have been really boring if it was! :)

Anyhow - I think secjay reminded us in his last post that his main concern is his girth, not his length.

And my goal is certainly not to be so big that my girlfriend will never be able to take all of me, first because what’s the point? And second because there’s very little chance I’ll be able to get there even if I wanted with my current 7 inch BPEL.

Secjay, you might want to consider yourself fortunate to find some one that is able to take all of you. from what I’ve been reading on this forum most women can’t even take 8.5”. So isn’t it about you getting satisfied as well, 10+ inch of dick is a lot to fufill, so if your girl is able to take all of you then consider yourself lucky. Cause at 7.5 my girl can’t take all of it and I know I sometimes would kill to be able to bounch my balls off of her ass.