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Possible explanation for BPEL > BPFSL

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Originally Posted by Spaniard94
BigWally, are you sure you are measuring correctly? Errors in measurement may explain at least some of the cases in which BPEL > BPFSL. It seems to me that as the penis also expands in girth when erected, it should be more rigid longitudinally, and therefore not able to achieve the same length without an erection.

Yes, I’m pretty sure. It is super tough!
But yes, it is hard to both stretch and measure, but since the difference is at least 0,5cm I don’t think I could manage to stretch it all the way to BPEL.
I’ve seen tutorial videos from this site etc. On manual stretching and it looks like the penises in the videos are much more stretchable than mine.
Also my girth is in the upper quantiles so that might be the reason.
I’ve recently started with heat+stretching. This looks like doing wonders for me.. But it’s too early to tell really.

Originally Posted by BigWally

Yes, I’m pretty sure. It is super tough!

But yes, it is hard to both stretch and measure, but since the difference is at least 0,5cm I don’t think I could manage to stretch it all the way to BPEL.

No offense BigWally but “I’m pretty sure” and “I don’t think I”, are not indicators of accurate measurements. May I suggest that early on in your PE career is the best time to accurately measure all the important parameters which indicate growth or the lack of it. And then document those values here or somewhere you cannot loose them. You can also start keeping a log of your routine and PI’s (Physiological Indicators) such as morning wood, soreness, etc.

Originally Posted by sheLovesIt
No offense BigWally but “I’m pretty sure” and “I don’t think I”, are not indicators of accurate measurements. May I suggest that early on in your PE career is the best time to accurately measure all the important parameters which indicate growth or the lack of it. And then document those values here or somewhere you cannot loose them. You can also start keeping a log of your routine and PI’s (Physiological Indicators) such as morning wood, soreness, etc.

Accurate measurement does not, IMHO, exist in PE, which is why I say as I do. We are measuring tissue which leaves the margin for error high.
This combined with scientific degree why I normally will say things like “pretty sure”, “quite certain” but never I’m 100% sure, always leaving out at least %1 possible error that I can fall back on later, especially if I’m doing something in writing. Decision people hate this :-) and so do I when its me calling the shots.

I’m still pretty sure, ie. Within ~2xSD, that my BPEL is bigger or at the most equal to my BPFSL.
BPFSL is to me the least accurate measurement, because you have to stretch and measure at the same time which is why I don’t keep measurement on that (yes, I’ve read Kyrpa’s thread).

I’m not new in this game (I’ve done hanging and manual stretching for a long time, some of the old measurements was lost from the old website) but unfortunately I’m pretty sure I’m a hard gainer caused by very non-elastic collagen structures.
I normally get newbie gains when starting up (which will be lost again when pausing), but after that it is pretty hard to do further gains.
I’m pretty good at high endurance sports and I think the reason for this is correlated (strong lean/mean type 1 fibers good for long haul bad for PE and yes penis is not a muscle but my guess is that the genetics in the tissue is somewhat using the same recipe).

My latest “re-start” is to try to use more heat (according to Kyrpa’s thread, just not US). If this doesn’t help gains, I’ll probably put PE on the shelf forever (or until some new results occur).

Been using heat for the last couple of days in combination with an JES extender with very promising results.

When I put on the extender the length is around 0-3mm below BPEL with around 1 pound. When continuous heat and further tension is applied it will stretch to around +2-4mm above BPEL (I even saw something like +6mm once). I’ve never experienced this much before with “cold” extending.

I’ll look into Kyrpa’s research some more (though I will probably use other means than US which I’m not comfortable with around my private parts).

Well, there you have it … your BPFSL is greater than your BPEL as measured by you. Measurement error vs anatomical anomaly. When they are close to equal then it suggests very good EQ. My EQ could be better since my BPFSL is .5 to .75 greater than my BPEL. I do take a little Viagra before sex and this makes me feel like a rockstar. I am likely a 1/4 more than my measured BPEL at that point. I came back after a long break and my stretch was off the charts. Had to take a 2 week break due to injury and a personal matter and now I am wondering if my tissues have strengthen alot. Stretch is minimally impresive. I’ll know for sure in the next week or so.

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