Reachable goal

Hi,
I’m about 6 1/2 by 5 1/2, it seems that girth is too much compared to length and I would like to add something, what you think is a realistic goal to reach?
let’s consider that I’m not a kid anymore, next to 40s but let’s also consider that there also is a lot of bodyfat and fatpad to get rid of, given all of this could I wish in about one more inch?
is the basic routine suitable for my needs or do i have to better concentrate on stretch?

thanks

DG

Don,

It seems you joined in July ‘04. Where you been?

Your goals depend totally upon you and your committment. How much time are you willing and able to spend? Do you have the privacy to hang weights or are you just wanting to do manual? Do you want to purchase a traction device?

An inch in length and half inch in girth are very reachable IF you put in the time. It may take you a year to reach it, it may take you 2 years. PE is a marathon, not a sprint.

I am 43 and have been PEing for over 15 years, on and off. I reached a plateau with manual, so recently bought a traction device. I am gaining faster now than I ever have.

Good luck and welcome back!

HJ

DG:

If you lose some fat, you will definitely notice some gains, plus, your life will be all the better for it. Keep on working out!

GM

no much privacy :-( and willing to only make manuals…
fat, fat, damn fat, the problem is that I got injury to both knees and can’t do much to loose weigth without legs, now I’m gonna try to pedal but it’s too boring, I hope to soon be back on running.
the goals would be to loose 7 kilos (not difficult with running) and to add 1/2 to 1 inch in length

tnx

DG:

You can make excellent progress with only manual PE: if you lose the weight also, your gains will be even more noticable. Just be religious and do your exercises every day!

Have you tried swimming? Have you ever seen any fat Olympic swimmers? :D

If you lose some weight first, then start running, it will be better for your knees. When I was 85Kg, I couldn’t run at all: now that I’m 75Kg, it’s no problem!

GM

I’ve been Mountain Biking a lot over the past few months and I’ve definitely noticed an improvement in my weight and physique, and it’s fun too!

I’m too about 83 and I will not run until I don’t get at lower than 80.
I have a mountain bike but it’s a downhill one, not much sense going up with that, I’ll end up with nice legs but belly and fatpad will still be there…
anyway, I’ve been to gym doing some weigth and stationary cycle, let’s see what happens but I have to be constant in PE too ;-)

bye all

DG

Yes, Ian Thorpe :)

If it’s adipose tissue - fat - that you want to lose then just do what many bodybuilders do when it comes to carving up (running will NOT burn fat! This will only help you with your respiratory & cardio systems).

A) You can either find a fairly steep hill & walk up it for 40-mins (20-mins to get the body into a thermogenic state & the last 20-mins to create actual thermogenesis) at a normal brisk pace breathing normally or,

B) If you belong to a gym, use the treadmill by adjusting the belt at a fairly steep angle & again, walk at a normal brisk pace (without holding onto the stabilizers) for 40-mins.

Just remember to walk at the normal pace that you normally do on a flat surface & also to inhale through your nose & exhale through your mouth. By doing this, your oxygen supply isn’t JUST going to your respiratory system (lungs & diaphragm) or directly working JUST your cardio system (heart). By walking at a normal pace on a fairly steep angle oxygen supply is spared 50/50 to both respiratory, cardio & thermogenisis.

- Lee Beast

Excellent advice Lee Beast.

The weight training is good too, although that’s mainly for muscle tone.

But the power walk Lee Beast suggests will do a lot for you if fat loss is your primary concern.

That and reducing your overall calorie intake, most importantly replacing simple carbs with high fiber complex carbs (example: brown instead of white rice). High fructose corn syrup is your enemy and is found in most commercial soft drinks (drink Vitamin Water instead of Coke), and many snack foods.

Read labels. Look at total calories and calories from fat. Try to eat things that have no more than 25% of the total calories comprised of calories from fat. And avoid all simple sugars: the body stores them as fat.

Lastly, try not to eat anything after 7 PM. Drink water instead. If you really get food craving in the evening Hoodia Gordoni is a safe and natural appetite supressant, and can be found in most health food stores.

Shed those pounds. That will show you what size your dick really is, and it will make you feel much better over all.

Good luck.

Mr. Happy,

You are absolutely correct! I totally forgot about the nutritional side of it all in order to achieve fat-loss successfully.

Of course, DG would have to eat at least 6-small meals per day high in protein (1.818g per lb of bodyweight) & low in calories (approx: 10-12Kcals per lb of bodyweight). Whatever you do, DO NOT eat less than 4 meals per day! The body naturally fights leaness by constantly being in a ‘Homeostasis’ state. This means the body fights again the need to lose adipose tissue (all comes down to the way we evolved through the caveman days), by NOT eating & starving your body of nutrients your body will use muscle tissue as a source of energy while holding onto fat deposits.

Eating 6-small meals per day will keep your metabolism ticking over just right (providing your meals are measured out to your requirements), taking in 1.818g of protein per pound of bodyweight will replace PTOR - Protein Turn-Over Rate - as our bodies PTOR 1.818g on a daily basis.

If you want to cut out fat, cut out all the bad shit like saturated & hydrogenated fat & go for fats which are EFA’s - Essential Fatty Acid’s - found in fish oil (Omega 3) or Virgin Olive Oil. NEVER cut out fat from your diet completely, your body REQUIRES some form of fat to stay healthy. Fat build-up occurs from eating high carbs, protein & simple sugars all TOGETHER, out of those 3 only 1-2 will be used as energy & the other will be stored & built up as extra fat (sort of like putting them in a waiting room with the rest of the fat waiting to be used as energy only when one goes, 2 turn up!).

Example: 200lb male

Protein intake: 1.818g per lb of BW = 363.6g daily
Carb intake: 1.818g per lb of BW = 363.6g daily
Calorie intake: 10-12Kcals per lb of BW = 2,000kcals-2,400Kcals daily

6-meals per day:

Protein per meal: 363.6g divided by 6 = 60.6g
Carbs per meal: 363.6g divided by 6 = 60.6g
Calories per meal: 2,000Kcals divided by 6 = 333Kcals-400Kcals

I have used this system for many years for both myself & my clients with great results. Of course, this will NOT work unless you put total effort into it! If you really want to lose fat then you must apply the effort necessary to achieve your goal, nothing comes that easy. Besides, if things were easy…I WOULDN’T do it! I like the challenge & the reward that comes from the end of the battle for self improvement or other aspects of life whether it be for PE, business, relationships or whatever you have in mind.

Hope this helps & best of luck.

- Lee Beast

Ah! Lee Beast is a professional - that explains it.

Yes, the six meal a day plan is ideal.

It does require some thought and discipline to start, but it’s not so hard once you establish it as your routine. The 6 meal a day plan is also good for overall mood and mental clarity - as is the exercise.

It’s just simply a good plan. Add the 40 minute power walk - which you can do everyday, even on weight training days (those you should alternate) and the fat will fly off.

Perhaps Lee Beast could further break down a sample menu? Or recommend some good reference material to read up on?

I’m typing on tic-tacs (I access Thunder's via Palm Treo) and have limited text space - plus I’m always looking for good suggestions myself. :leftie:

What do you recommend Lee?

Wait. I think I didn’t understand something. Why every time I have a discussion with some sports coach or athlet about losing weight they all recommend running at a steady pace for over 20 minutes about 3-4 times a week ? I thought swimming and running are major “fat-killers” if each session lasts for enough time…

Also, about the thing with the proteins. I have been told that since my weight is now around 80 kg, I should get through my meals about 160-180 g of proteins if I want to keep the part of my weight that is muscles and more than double if I want to increase it (combined with exercise of course). Is that untrue? Or perhaps it is “almost” true, an answer that is given from someone that is bored to get into details in an informal discussion about eating habits and exercise ?

I was about to begin swimming and lifting weights next month. Swimming for lowering the fat in my body and the rest to add some more muscles. Answering the questions above with be deeply appreciated.

Thanks and I hope this won’t be considered as hijacking the thread. :-)

DonGiovanni,
Basic routine to start with. Most guys don’t gain girth unless they go crazy doing girth work and even then it can be hard. Jelqing is important when you start out to keep your penis healthy and to aid circulation.

workingout,
Anything that you do that causes you to burn more calories than you take in will help to loose weight but I am not a big fan of running for exorcise anyway. Way to much potential for damage to your feet, shins, knees, and hips.

Swimming is one heck of an all around workout as you have resistance against every move you make. Be careful to not cause shoulder and rotater cup injury by combining heavy shoulder lifting with high volumes of swim strokes that utilize overhand motions, (crawl, butterfly, side).

The core of my workout routine is high altitude cliff hiking with a weight vest followed up by basic compound dumbbell’s and chin-ups/dips. Do not neglect warmup/ stretching cooldown/stretching for maximum effect.

Mr. H,

I’d love to break down a sample menu, unfortunately everything I do is on disc! The only way I could do this for you is if I were to send you the files. Files contain the following:

Protein sources (measured at 35g of protein per source): these foods would fall into the category of mainly animal proteins, I never count incomplete proteins which you would find in something like a loaf of bread.

Carb sources (measured at 50g of carb source): these foods would fall into the category of mainly starch carbs & complex carbs. By the way, carbohydrates come from ‘Carbon Hydration’ which is why it is STILL very important to take in carbs if you are trying to lose excess fat!

Fat sources (measured at 80g for a person weighing around the 180lb mark): food include animal sources, dairy sources & EFA sources. Only the good fat is listed whilst also giving you a little insight into bad fats.

Junk food analysis (measured for protein, carbs, fat, sugar, sodium & fibre): foods on this list were compiled over many months with samples from McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s, Pizza Hut, Domino’s Pizza & KFC.

If you’re looking for good material to read up on then I suggest anything by ‘Chris Aceto’. The guy KNOWS what he’s talking about since he prepares alot of pro-bodybuilders for competition or, if you can find it, anything by ‘Chad Nicholls’. These two guys are armed to the teeth with vast amounts of expert knowledge in the field of sports nutrition. Check them out!

As for swimming, yes swimming is a good ALL round exercise for muscle but unfortunately it does not create a thermogenic effect when trying to lose excess fat. The only proven way is simply by WALKING as it is known to spare oxygen levels at a 50/50 rate. Swimming on the other hand will only spare oxygen at a rate of 85/15 (85% for muscle tension whilst moving against resistance & 15% for respiratory system). If you get a chance to, get a bodybuilding dvd where you actually get to see the pro’s doing only the treadmill at a fairly steep angle in order to create a thermogenisis environment within their body’s. Who better to listen to than an off-season pro-bodybuilder who goes from 300lbs to 250lbs & who does this for a living!

To spare muscle tissue, you carry on training as heavy as your body can manage (high reps do NOT help you lose fat or bring out detail! This is a myth! Only a good diet can help you lose fat & bring out details), you can always cycle your protein intake on days you’re not training or even take your body to a state of catabolism for 2 weeks & then bump your protein up & load in the carbs for a fuller look. Ever notice how a bodybuilder who gets ready for a comp carb depletes then after the comp carbs loads immediately & then proceeds to train the next day & boom! Up goes his bodyweight (muscle tissue) in as little as 2 weeks! Watch Jay Cutlers new dvd called ‘One Step Closer’. He explains the very same thing when it comes to losing fat & whilst holding onto muscle tissue.

A simple little trick for every morning 40-mins before walking is to have a small cup of Espresso (strong shit which is full of caffeine) with half an Aspirin & half of a Pink Grapefruit. The caffeine, aspirin mixed with the acidic from the grapefruit causes a thermogenic effect similar to that of Ephedrine - which I believe is illegal in the US - I have many of my clients do this & all of them are happy with the results at the end of the program.

- Lee Beast