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Originally Posted by RichPianaRatio
For what reason/reasons do you wish to maintain your upward erection angle and curve? Better hitting the upper vaginal wall during sexual intercourse?

An upward curve and a high erection angle make it easier to stimulate the G-spot during missionary

Tight suspensory ligaments mean more stability at the base of your penis, making sex more fun in many ways, and the chance of sex injury less likely.


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Originally Posted by Makehergocrazy
I’m almost positive I have read a few times that stretching down puts more stress on your tunica compared to stretching up? Hmmmm.

If you look at an anatomical diagram, you’ll see that the suspensory ligaments “hold up” the penis at the base.

When penis lengthening surgery is performed where the ligaments are surgically severed, you’ll notice that the penis just hangs vertically down, no matter it’s level of erection. The ligaments no longer “hold it up”.

Part of the recovery for that surgery, and to maximize length gains, is to hand weights that pull the penis vertically down, in order to prevent the ligaments from reattaching.

Also, just from a subjective feeling during stretching. When stretching in any direction lower than horizontal, you can feel your ligaments stretch, and if you overdo it, you will feel a “lig pop”. When you stretch upward, you can feel the stretching only in the penis itself. That’s the tunica stretching.

The tunica has two layers of perpendicularly opposes parallel fibers, picture a hash tag:

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the two horizontal lines are one layer of the tunica’s parallel fibers, and the two vertical lines are the second layer of parallel fibers. One layer is aligned in the direction of the length of your penis, and the other layer is aligned with the circumference.

In order to get the maximum expansion in the tunica, you need to stretch in both directions of the fibers of the tunica.
Manual stretching, hanging, and wearing ADS stretch one layer of the tunica fibers, and
Erect squeezes and clamping stretch the other layer.
Jelqing and pumping stretch both layers of the tunica as they apply force in both directions.

The routine I follow is based on the newbie routine, with erect squeezes added. All done under heat in the shower.

Heat is the secret ingredient as it makes all tissues more flexible and allows greater tissue expansion for a given amount of applied force, which minimizes the risk of injury.


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2018: BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

NOW (start 1/2024): BPEL: 6.9in. EG: 5.4in

Originally Posted by richardfitswell
An upward curve and a high erection angle make it easier to stimulate the G-spot during missionary

Tight suspensory ligaments mean more stability at the base of your penis, making sex more fun in many ways, and the chance of sex injury less likely.

First of all, thank you very much for both of your highly informative posts.

I categorize my penis as one that has a far above average erection angle (at most thirty degrees away from being vertical), and notice a bigger difference between BPEL and BPFSL than most people here describe (talking about a BPEL of roughly one and a half inch more than BPFSL).

Could the poor flexibility be due to my high erection angle? If I start wearing an ADS or do a lot of downward stretches will I notice greater results than those who started off with a lower erection angle?

Originally Posted by RichPianaRatio
First of all, thank you very much for both of your highly informative posts.

I categorize my penis as one that has a far above average erection angle (at most thirty degrees away from being vertical), and notice a bigger difference between BPEL and BPFSL than most people here describe (talking about a BPEL of roughly one and a half inch more than BPFSL).

Could the poor flexibility be due to my high erection angle? If I start wearing an ADS or do a lot of downward stretches will I notice greater results than those who started off with a lower erection angle?

I don’t think that the flexibility of the penis is related to erection angle or the length of the ligaments.

I think it’s more likely to be related to the individual and unique properties of the tissues of your penis.

I have no way of proving this, but my hypothesis is that since you have a very high erection angle, you may be able to achieve more length gains from stretching your ligaments than people who start with a lower erection angle.

But, that limited gain is not something I would personally sacrifice erection angle and base stability for when I could get that same length gain over a slightly longer period of time through tunica expansion rather than lengthening of ligaments.


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2018: BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

NOW (start 1/2024): BPEL: 6.9in. EG: 5.4in

Depending on how loose your ligaments are, it will change the range of action to stretch the ligaments, the dorsal or opposite side of tunica. The neutral angle is aligned with your internal suspended penis. If you stretch at that angle, it will be a complete average work of the tunica. If you fully loosen your ligaments, that neutral angle will be lower and stretching downward will target the full tunica. The tighter the ligaments, the more downward stretches will target the ligaments instead as they will take all the force that should otherwise reach the deeper part of the tunica. So if you go only downward, you won’t be able to stretch the tunica in depth as long as you don’t stretch your ligaments in depth.

I wish bib and all his wisdom were here. I just started a good hanging routine with a cheap captains wench I made myself. Been reading hundreds of comments from old veterans and the general idea was that you hang with a low weight (maybe 2.5lb depending on your conditioning) for a long amount of time, then slowly increasing weight, working on BTC and SD angles, then start to do fulcrum hanging for the tunica. Not sure where to go from here.

Originally Posted by qntrnar
Depending on how loose your ligaments are, it will change the range of action to stretch the ligaments, the dorsal or opposite side of tunica. The neutral angle is aligned with your internal suspended penis. If you stretch at that angle, it will be a complete average work of the tunica. If you fully loosen your ligaments, that neutral angle will be lower and stretching downward will target the full tunica. The tighter the ligaments, the more downward stretches will target the ligaments instead as they will take all the force that should otherwise reach the deeper part of the tunica. So if you go only downward, you won’t be able to stretch the tunica in depth as long as you don’t stretch your ligaments in depth.

Do you have any idea on how much one can change their erection angle? For instance, if I, with thirthy degrees from vertical, am able to get a perfectly horizontal erection?

Originally Posted by qntrnar
Depending on how loose your ligaments are, it will change the range of action to stretch the ligaments, the dorsal or opposite side of tunica. The neutral angle is aligned with your internal suspended penis. If you stretch at that angle, it will be a complete average work of the tunica. If you fully loosen your ligaments, that neutral angle will be lower and stretching downward will target the full tunica. The tighter the ligaments, the more downward stretches will target the ligaments instead as they will take all the force that should otherwise reach the deeper part of the tunica. So if you go only downward, you won’t be able to stretch the tunica in depth as long as you don’t stretch your ligaments in depth.

When you stretch downward to your bpfsl you will target the tunica regardless how tight the ligs are.

Stretch your penis downward and with your hand touch the dorsal side of your penis, you will see that the tension is on your tunica. Then stretch your penis upward and do the same, you will find that the tension is less on the dorsal side and more on the ventral.

By holding the inner penis against the pubic arch, ligaments act as an inverted V stretch. So downward stretches don’t hit the inner dorsal part as deeply as a proper neutral stretch. Maybe it explains why hangers develop a larger base. Because of the constant local inverted V pressure. That’s where they’ll get the more growth.

Originally Posted by RichPianaRatio
Do you have any idea on how much one can change their erection angle? For instance, if I, with thirthy degrees from vertical, am able to get a perfectly horizontal erection?

Not everyone has the same pelvic structure and ligaments but I guess everyone can go as far as canceling the angle. Just a guess.

Thank you everyone for your detailed answers. This is such a tricky subject because between which stretches, stretch the tunica or ligaments, and the argument of if stretching ligaments result in more erect size or not, this is such a touchy and complicated subject. If only we had exact answers.

The only thing I think every single person can agree on is that stretching the tunica does in fact result in a larger erect unit.

Oh and I as well have a cock that shoots up when fully erect at about a 45 degree angle. I love it, it makes it feel strong and solid. And like mentioned above, I feel it helps with hitting the g spot and creating more tension/tighter fit when in the pussy.


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Originally Posted by richardfitswell
Stretchung up concentrates all of the force on the tunica. Stretching downwards puts more force on the ligaments and less total force in the tunica.

I myself, personally don’t want my ligs getting stretched any more than they already are. It causes a lower erection angle, and can result in less stability in the base of your penis.

I don’t stretch downward at all for that reason. But that’s just me.

When I was a newbie, I used to stretched down and it resulted in a lower election angle, and a reduction in the upward curve of my penis. To me, both of those are negative effects, and if I knew that would happen at the beginning, I would have avoided stretching downwards.

Depending on what you want, that could be a positive thing though, so YMMV

So if you would of known that it would of lowered the angle you would of only stretched upwards?

When I stretch down I can feel the ligament tension up into abdomen. When I stretch out with upward angle I can feel tension back to prostate. My impression is down for flaccid, & out or up for tunic

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