The ruler, the penis and the pelvis tilt

I measure seated, and do whatever I can to get the longest BPEL measurment. That way, I can easily tell if I’ve gained or not. To measure NBP I would do it standing, but that number is not published. :D

Hey Guys-
While maintaining a consistent posture when measuring can’t be over-looked I think it should be pointed out that in order to get consistent measurements you should always measure using the same ruler as well.
I know, I know. I can hear you now: “Does the word ‘duh’ mean anything to you dude?”
But let me share this:
Recently while browsing an office supply store I did an impromptu test of the many rulers they offered and “SURPRISE” there were some serious inconsistencies happening between rulers.
Using the 6” mark as an anchor, in case after case both the ascending and descending points varied or ‘spread’.
Using the two rulers with the biggest ‘spread’ and comparing them from the very start of the ruler I was astonished to find a full 1/4” difference between them as early as the 8” mark.
Incredibly, in one case I found a 1/8” difference between two ‘identical’ rulers made by the same manufacturer.
Wooden rulers were by far the greatest culprit, next came plastic.
The rulers with the greatest consistency were metal (almost no variation).
I could go on about why this all might be (cheap production/materials, heat and moisture, bla,blah) but the important thing I learned is that PE’ers like myself who are concerned with centimeters should stick with the ruler they started with (dance with the one who brung ya).
I’m not sure what this says about measurements from one person to the next given the logistics (and douche-chill factor) of everyone using the same metal ruler but 7 1/8” sure looks a lot bigger than 6 7/8” when you’ve spent the last two months jelqing your brains out .

-Cap

Exactly. Consistency is everything and it is easiest obtained by using the outer limits of what have you (rock bottom on the fat pad, max pelvis tilt, standing straight against a wall when measuring body height etc.) “Neutral”, “normal” or “somewhere in-between” are just not valid tools when accuracy is what you´re after.

As for “cheat from the beginning”, I think the fine thing about the max pelvis tilt is that it´s very, very difficult to argue that the “tilter´s” readings are beyond reason; tilting the pelvis forward is what we do in normal sexual situations. We push ourselves (well, only the dick actually;) ) forward to show every fraction of an inch we got. That´s a perfectly legit and common behavoir, and therefore it´s, IMHO, something we should try to simulate when making measurments.

Hey! I´m one of those guys…;) Yes, it´s just 1/4, or maybe 1/2, but still. Anyway, my guess is that the majority of people measure with max forward pelvis tilt, without thinking about it. It´s like the old question of EBPL or NBPL in the surveys - we never (almost) know if the participants were bone pressing or not, right? But, like many here at Thunder´s have said: It´s safe to assume that most guys bone press because 1) it´s more difficult not to and 2) it gives you the best reading. I think the same goes for pelvis tilt; max tilt is probably how most guys in the surveys measure.

So the next time you guys see a survey that says that the “normal” penis is 5-6 inches long, you can quite safely assume that the guy with le dicko normale and his fellow participants both bone pressed and tilted his pelvis forward. At least that´s what I´d like to belive.

This is very important if you are keeping monthly track, or more frequently. For example; I was most likely seated when taking measurements a month ago. And just a week ago I did it while on my knees with most likely a neutral pelvic tilt. It frustrated me that a months worth of religiously hanging didn’t result in any gains. It even was an half cm shorter.

This is crucial. It can demotivate you from P.E, you might change your routine up to soon, while it is still gaining you ect pelvic position is important when measuring. Like how NBP can fluctuate a lot, that’s why experienced people keep track of BP. It’s safe to assume forward pelvic tilt is like BP measurement. In the name of the most accurate/consistent measurement strategy. Pick the most comfortable position for you (seated, standing, on your knees) pay attention to where you pelvis is(neutral, ass back wards, pushed forward) push forward like your squeezing your ass. Then take your measurements, everything on the same position as before. This can safe your p.e career.

Yep, measuring accurately is important. Establish a consistent way to measure and then do it often so you get really good at it. I often measured multiple times every PE session, and I could discern small differences. This is very useful for determining how much temporary lengthening you’re getting from a session - not only how much total, but when it is reached. This is one way you can monitor what is happening.

I have always measured standing. While standing relatively straight I usually tighten my glutes somewhat, which puts the pelvis in a relatively neutral position. IMO, the angle of the penis in relation to the pelvis is more important. If it is 90 degrees out (or at least the same angle each time you measure), the absolute position of the pelvis shouldn’t matter much. However, for getting consistent penis angle from the pelvis it is helpful to have the pelvis in the same position each time.

Position the ruler in the same place each time you measure. I used to have a tiny callus from the inner edge of the ruler. I hold the ruler in my right hand and try to place it in the same spot against my pubic bone every time. I align the left edge of the ruler with the middle of my penis.

If you want to throw another wrinkle into the mix, try measuring with the ruler placed dead center and turned up vertically. You have to lean over to eyeball the measurement against the face of the ruler. I lose a little doing that compared to my usual measuring method. I noticed the difference long ago, and I have tracked length both ways. I wondered if maybe I had been deceived by the ruler pressing in further under the ridge of the pubic bone. For me, the difference didn’t change over time, which was reassuring.

I measure BPEL standing with my back flat* against the wall. I would argue that’s the best way to perform the measurement for various reasons.

I’m lazy. I measure while laying on my back. Shaft at 90 degrees, ruler centered on shaft, with a metal slider on the ruler that I move until it touches the glans, to eliminate parallax error.

Lots of ways but consistency clearly in everyone’s minds.
Just a note.
When we stand, there is usually some lumbar lordosis(small of the back). We can voluntarily increase it, tilting the pelvis back, or flatten it, tilting the pelvis forwards. Same effect in the latter by standing against a wall, back pressed to it.
When we sit down, the pelvis rotates, tilting forwards, this explaining the observed measurement differences. However. If you’re back is stiff or even fused, this doesn’t occur as much or at all. Therefore the difference in measurement between standing and sitting may be less.
The situation lying is interesting. When we lie down, there is a tendency for the lumber lordosis to increase, tilting the pelvis back and may result in a lower reading. This is made much more apparent as we get older, our hips get stiffer or even arthritic. It the hips lose their extension (happens early in arthritis) the pelvis has no choice but to tilt back to permit the legs to go flat.

Therefore, there is a potential for apparent BP length to decrease over years even when actual length has not changed.
If anyone thinks they might have arthritic or stiff hips, there is a simple test to check if extension has been lost. Happy to share if anyone interested, just don’t want to overload the post.

BPEL is for tracking your progress, so what matters is that you always use the same position and even the same ruler. Also the base of the ruler matters too. I used to use a precision stainless steel ruler because the end of the ruler started from zero, but it was pretty thin, so it was not only painful to push it onto my fatpad but also sometimes i could push it it more depending on the angle. Now i use a wooden ruler and i glued some piece of wood on the base of it to make it wider, so now it always sits on the bone the same way, there is no way to squeeze in a few extra mm when measuring by pushing super hard.

Huh. I’ve been wondering how to correct for the parallax problem, and I had not considered using a ruler with a slider. That would solve the problem, though.