1/2 inch gain with BH -4months

Bib,

Just to let you know I have agined approximately 1/2” since Sept. when I purchased BH. I am up to 15 lbs BTC as of today, good way to start the new year. At what weight did you start getting good stretch and gains? I recall reading somewhere that it was around 17 lbs. Thanks, whould not have been possible w/o BH.

Merlin

Merlin,

That is extremely impressive. Avg. 1/8 per month.

How much time have you put in, and how much weight are you using now?

Any problems?

Bigger

Bib,

No problems of major significance, though some reduced sensation with sub par erections, this clears up with severals days rest.

Time is variable, still working on gaining consistency. Generically, I will go for 3 sets 20 min, max weight, 4 to 5 days/wk all BTC so far. After three sets, some tissue fatigue occurrs, still evaluating implications per optimum routine. i have done up to 5 sets per day. Predisposed toward more aggessive routine per your suggestions, where 5-8 sets would be the goal per day. A matter of time and experience will provide the insights to dynamically approach optimum .

I also do manual one handed palms down jelqing/uli’s during and after in all directions. Also do jelq and pull for a two dimentional approach, ie engroinment and stretch, etc.

Additionally, do the “wrap” for engroinment, between hanging times during the day works like a charm.

I would appreciate your thoughts on tissue fatigue, how to maintain “penis tone” throughout a more exhaustive routine such as those you have performed. Again,

Many thanks,

Merlin

Merlin,

I started gaining at about 7.5 lbs. Most of my gains came between 17.5 and 20 lbs. These are all max weights. After that, the gains became tougher and I had to go up in weight regularly.

>I would appreciate your thoughts on tissue fatigue, how to maintain “penis tone” throughout a more exhaustive routine such as those you have performed. <

I really don’t know what you mean by penis ‘tone’. I would imagine you mean the responsiveness under increasing work. This is a factor and I really don’t have a good answer. I always tried to plan my work around sex. I took things a little easier on Wednesdays and Fridays because, well, because of obvious reasons. However, at times when I was raped, it could be tough.

As you push the envelope more and more, you will find it a litlle more difficult to perform, although I never experienced erection failure, even after very heavy work. Sometimes, I had to grit my teeth and push on. After a few minutes, the fatigue seemed to lessen greatly, and the sex was as enjoyable as ever.

The good news is, it seems to be a bell curve. As you increase the workload, it becomes more difficult. Then, as your penis adapts, it becomes much easier. Over time, you will become much stronger. While it will take increasing work (time, weight) to achieve gains, it takes much more work to have negative effects on performance. After a year or so (maybe more), I can remember almost no effect from a heavy work day. It seems to be only a matter of adaptation.

Bigger

Merlin:

Congrads on your gains, have you seen any girth that you atribute to the hanging as well?

How long have you been PEing and what did your basic excerises consist of prior to hanging?

What were your gains pre-hanging?

Bib,

Penis “tone” I would define as continuity of form and function. E.g. loss of tone would involve diminished erectile responsiveness, sensitiviey, and at times acute modest tissue contraction as your member may begin to look a bit worn out or “beat up” as the day goes on during a marathon session. Hypothetically speaking, I would feel it helpful to maintain positive “tone” throughout the daily session, and when you are simply unable to maintain tone, I wonder whether this may be a signal to conclude your session for the day. I suspect over time one can build up stamina and maintain tone for progressively longer sessions consistent with one’s constitutional makeup. Upon asking you the question, some personal reflection suggests light jelqing intra hanging (10-min rest period) to the point of erection to get the machinery back in operation so to speak each time. (If there is a long rest period during the day and conclusion of daily session, as in during lunch break, I would wrap for erectile expansion- thoughts???) I would stress light jelqing so as not to over tax the tissues particularly if a long session is planned. At the conclusion of the session, i would “let her rip” per manual jelqind, uli’s, etc. An analogy would be pacing yourself as in marathon running. My recollection is that this is pretty much what you have already suggested per your own routines. Any further thoughs would be appreciated.

Zep,

How long have you been PEing and what did your basic excerises consist of prior to hanging?

What were your gains pre-hanging?

1. Briefly, I started with pumps a number of years ago, regulated the time and intensity of the procedure to accomplish modest gains over years- it was not practical.
2. Jes-extender- was using these devises prior to BH; it is rather ingenious and backed by apparent medical research. I used it 4 to 6 months before BH, and getting 1/8 gain per every two months, then no gains for various reasons.
3. BH started in Sept. and studied/learned judiciously the vast quantity of information to optimize dynamically the technique. Everything Bib has indicated works as he suggests. Any trouble shooting occurrences, I could ultimately figure out on my own buy studying the vast info. plus common sense.
4. Pre hanging gains: 1/2” with pumps over years and 3/8” with Jes-extender. There is more to the story, however this will suffice for now.

Merlin

Merlin,

>Upon asking you the question, some personal reflection suggests light jelqing intra hanging (10-min rest period) to the point of erection to get the machinery back in operation so to speak each time. (If there is a long rest period during the day and conclusion of daily session, as in during lunch break, I would wrap for erectile expansion- thoughts???) <

You know, the light milking between sets and at the end of the day is what I did. I do think it helps in recovery and therefore probably tone, if for no other reason than increased blood flow. Also, it gives you a good idea of how you realy feel. Which is one indicaiton of tone. The only thing I really noticed is, after the hanging followed by milking, I really had good color. Vibrant, healthy.

I would also stay wrapped from time to time, but just at the attachment point. I am very interested in the wrap at the base for a full shaft engorgement. How this relates to gains as well as recovery. EDIT: While the engorgement might actually decrease blood flow slightly, the expansion of the internal caverns may increase the usage of blood flow by allowing for increased access.

All in all, I think you will find the tone and recovery increasing as the ability to fatigue the tissues decreases and the penis becomes stronger.

Bigger

Bib,

Thank you for you insights, all of which fits together in a mosaic of events leading progressively to more effective PE. The open-ended prospects continue to amaze me.

Merlin

Merlin:

thanks for the background info.

happy hanging!

Bib,

How long did it take you to build up to your “marathon” sessions previously discussed. IOW how long did it take you to build up the stamina for all day regimes. How many sets did you start off with initially, and what roughly was you per month increase in time/sets involvement until reaching “max” sessions.

Thanks

Merlin

Merlin,

I don’t really know how long it took to work up to all day hanging, but I would estimate about six months. Maybe a little longer.

I started with just two or three sets. Then, I simply went up in time as I could. I cannot remember the progression, but I can tell you it was not linear. I concentrated on going up in weight as I hung more and more sets. Therefore, both factors were working toward fatigue. Sometimes I hung more sets at a lower weight, and sometimes I hung more weight for fewer sets. That is, until I could hang all day. Then I concentrated in going up in weight as I could handle it.

Bigger

Bib,

Thanks

Merlin

Merlin, as Bib says, 1/8th inch per month is GOOD progress. That is an INCH every 8 months. Most people are impatient and want immediate gains. Some are lucky and get them. I averaged 1/4” per month for my first 2 months and have gained another 1/4” over the last 2 months (3/4” total so far). I have been doing manual streching and jelqing (fairly short sessions) and hope to gain 1+” from the jelqing and 1+” from the hanging. Don’t get me wrong, if I do better… GREAT. But 2” total growth would make me (and my women) very pleased :D

BTW, Bib, you stated that you averaged 1/4” per month. I assume that your gains were not linear. What is the MOST gain you experienced in 1 month? What was your longest plateau/time without gaining?

NE,

>BTW, Bib, you stated that you averaged 1/4” per month. I assume that your gains were not linear. What is the MOST gain you experienced in 1 month? <

No, the most I ever recorded was 3/8” in a month. Gained 1/4” several times.

>What was your longest plateau/time without gaining?<

Five months. Also two, 2 month plateaus.

Well, looking at my records, it is a little off because I did not measure at 30-31 day intervals. Here it is.

July ‘98 through Jan ‘99, I did not measure because I did not really believe PE would work. After gaining a couple inches, I decided maybe it does work (duh) and started keeping up. I did measure during this time. Just did not write it down.

I never measured any 1/2 inch gains or anything, but since I did not always measure at exactly one month, some actual months may have been more than 3/8”. Also, during those first eight months I could have had more than 3/8” in any one month.

Started in June ‘98 at a little less than six, thinking maybe I could eventually get to six. Everything is bone pressed.

1999
02/23 8.25, 03/07 8.5, 03/30 8.5, 04/16 8 7/8, 05/06 9, 06/01 9.25, 06/23 9 5/8, 07/27 9.75, 08/26 9.75, 09/28 9.75, 10/18 10, 11/15 10.25, 12/15 10.25

2000
01/17 10.5, 02/15 10.25, 03/22 10.25(*started Ulis), 05/01 10.25, 06/02 10 5/8, 07/04 10.75, 09/20 10(?), 10/17 10.5, 12/02 10.25, 02/05/01 10.5. Each time measured within the last year it has been about 10.5.

Bigger

Thanks Bib,

I ran a quick spread sheet and found the following:

Beginning (a little under 6”)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,,, days,,,gain,,,per 30
6/xx/98,,,,6.000
02/23/99,,8.250,,245,,,2.250,,,0.276
03/07/99,,8.500,,,,12,,,0.250,,,0.625
03/30/99,,8.500,,,,22,,,0.000,,,0.000
04/16/99,,8.875,,,,17,,,0.375,,,0.662
05/06/99,,9.000,,,,20,,,0.125,,,0.188
06/01/99,,9.250,,,,26,,,0.250,,,0.288
06/23/99,,9.625,,,,22,,,0.375,,,0.511
07/27/99,,9.750,,,,34,,,0.125,,,0.110
08/26/99,,9.750,,,,30,,,0.000,,,0.000
09/28/99,,9.750,,,,33,,,0.000,,,0.000
10/18/99,,10.000,,,20,,,0.250,,,0.375
11/15/99,,10.250,,,28,,,0.250,,,0.268
12/15/99,,10.250,,,30,,,0.000,,,0.000
01/17/00,,10.500,,,33,,,0.250,,,0.227
02/15/00,,10.250,,,30,,,0.000,,,0.000

Looks like you gained at an over all average rate of .252 inches per 30 day period BUT from 2/23/99 to 3/7/99 you were gaining at a .625 per month rate, you then gained nothing thru 3/30/99, from 3/30/99 to 4/16 you gained at a .662” per month rate, and so on. In other words at times you were gaining VERY quickly and other times virtually nothing. Very interesting. Thanks for the data.

PS. If you want a copy of the Excel spreadsheet let me know.