Anyone with a low lot made any gains hanging upwards?

Thanks Dick Builder, I’m using about 7 pounds to during my sets. Your posts have really inspired me to get into more serious hanging. Not sure how to keep the heat on during the sets though at the moment I’m just using a hot water bottle and move it around the penis before the sets. Though sometimes in the morning before work I usually don’t use heat because I just don’t have the time.

What about keeping it stretched out after the set? I’ll have a search for the managing fatigue threads.

Dick Builder: Would you say that your length gains have come solely from upward stretching or have you been combining it with jelqing or pumping?

I originally started incorporating the manuals into my routine to both mimic multiple hanging sets throughout the day and to replace an ADS.

I’ve never pumped and only jelqed ‘behind the balls’ between sets in order to restore circulation. My first half inch was from following DLD’s newbie routine (minus the jelqing). The second was from hanging at as near my erection angle as possible.

Delectric, I just saw your other questions in the post. I hang 15 to 30 lbs generally at angles roughly SO or higher. I try to hang 15 to 20 minutes with 3 sets per day and 4 to 5 days of pe each week. When I started pe over two years ago, I hung less weight at lower angles and gained very little. I have gained a lot of girth with jelqing, uli’s, and clamping all through my pe experience (over an inch to 6” at mid-shaft). My length gain seemed to have just “popped” all of a sudden in the spring of last year with my straight up hanging routine (half inch in 3 months). Since then, I have only gained about an eighth of an inch. I have taken deconditioning breaks on length, but I keep working girth. I can get to over 6.5 inches eg while double clamped and continue to cement more gains. I wish my length came as easy. My wife said my unit is getting “scary” but in a good way. I saw the same comment in a few posts.

I do use rice socks and a heating pad. I think the heat helps, but that is obviously debatable based on data at Thunder’s.

Dick Builder why did you use the manual stretches to replace the ads? I’ve tried ads and with the few contraptions i’ve made, i’ve just never felt comfortable wearing it for much more than an hour and really i don’t feel a good stretch more like it’s just holding the penis in an extended state put not pulling it tort.

deerhunter 15 to 30ibs wow! That’s some big weights there. I’ve gone up to about 18ibs but i find after a while it kills my penis. I would think that a girth of 6” is more than enough to make up for not hitting the 6.5” mark (is that a can of Red Bull?). I’ve found that actually though I’ve gained little length by hanging down my girth has increased at the base by half an inch or so, so this is some good progress.

I really hope I don’t need to go up to 30ib to get some gains… Are you using the factory bib hanger?

Delectric, I use the homemade “winchette” and another homemade hanger. I wrap with a soft suede and theraband.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with your statement that there isn’t very much tension with an ADS. That too has been my experience. I spent a great deal of time in years past utilizing an ADS with and without a hanging routine. Neither approach resulted in gains.

So, taking into account the amount of work it took for me to reach fatigue, utilizing an ADS made no sense to me. I felt that utilizing a force that was close to or equal to the force that caused the original stretch (fatigue) would be necessary to force the body to repair itself in the longer state. Bib story was that he hung sets throughout the day. I didn’t have the time for that. So, I substituted manual sessions instead. And, I would actually reach fatigue during the manuals, forcing me to back off on the tension. Granted, I was holding them for up too three minutes. It’s been my experience that repeated loading throughout the day, with sufficient tension to deform the tissues (fatigue), resulted in a longer length of those tissues.

Dick Builder can you give details of your manual stretches? All in the upwards position. I would probably only have time every hour or so to pop to the toilet for a quick 5 minute stretch do you think this is enough?

Also what about the feeling of fatigue in the upward hanging position. For me feeling fatigue hanging downwards was no problem due to feeling the stretch on the ligs but so far hanging up there seems none of that.

Anyway so far so good. I’ve taken your approach and started going for ten hours a week. My routine is like this so far.

I’ve been hanging consistently at 3.5kg (7ib +)over the shoulder (switching between left and right). Don’t know if I should hang over the leg.

monday - 2.5 hours most of this being in the first part of the day and then 40 minutes of hanging before I went to bend
tuesday - 1 hour 20 minutes in the morning 40 minutes at night (also started using heat around the base while I hand.
wednesday - 2.5 hours the same as monday but with heat.
thursday 1 hour - same as tuesday.
friday - plan to do 2.5 hours so all in all from monday to friday this will be 9 hours. Also I’ll start to incorporate some stretches during the day.
saturday/sunday - not sure what i’ll do hear. If ten hours a week is enough then i might even just hang for a short set on each day maybe a 20 minute set on a saturday and a 10 minute set on a sunday. Do you think I should do more?

Also between sets I’m keeping everything extended by attaching some light weight to the end 250-500g. Also doing some light jelques. Also occaisionally i’m doing some clamping but maybe one set a day at most. Really I just clamp when I’m feeling horny then just kegal in the clamped state I think this is good just to maintain the health of the penis especially when it’s being starved of oxygen during hanging sets.

Anyway what do you think of this routine. Any constructive criticism would be much appreciated.

(Disclaimer) We are now stepping beyond an explanation of what I did to get gains and into the realm of coaching you on your routine. I must admit that I’m a bit uncomfortable with this. My routine evolved out of my own personal experience. And, what worked for me may seriously injure you. So, please be careful and stay out of the pain zone.

Another reason I started incorporating manuals into my routine was that it was difficult for me to reach fatigue during the first set or two of each mornings hanging session. My evening sets were sporadic at best. My piss pulls started out as simple pulls and evolved into fulcrums that focused on the septum. You ‘must’ start out easy and every two to four hours throughout the day should be sufficient. Everything, hanging and manuals must be done with a focus on fatigue. So, you really have to pay attention to your body and adjust the intensity accordingly. Back off when you’re too sore. Hanging is very controlled. So, it’s fairly safe in my opinion. The manuals, on the other hand, are not. So, remember please, please, please start off with very light tension, each time. Things happen real quickly and you could really hurt yourself performing a routine this intense.

All I can say is just keep at it, the manuals will help.

Stick to the angle you’ve chosen. Switching them up will only hinder your quest for fatigue.

This sounds fine to me. If you can hang on the Weekends then do it. Every day you take off will set you back about two days in reaching fatigue again. If, for some reason you can’t hang then continue with the manuals that day.

I think you are really overdoing it with the jelqes and especially the clamping. And, the light weights aren’t necessary when you’re doing the manuals.
I can’t express how careful you must be when doing the manuals throughout the day and riding fatigue with them. It’s much different than hanging, where the weight is controlled. You can very easily over do it and hurt yourself - rapidly. If you had the time to hang instead of utilizing the manuals then I would suggest that instead. And, incorporating other stresses into the routine could cause an injury as well. You need to really take it slow; gradually increasing the intensity till you hit the fatigue zone, and then ride that line in a very careful manner. You only have one dick, so please take it slow. I really don’t want you to come back and say you’ve injured yourself. There’s some very good information on fatigue on Bib’s forum. I suggest reading it. In fact, read the entire forum, last time I checked it wasn’t that large.

Thanks Dick builder I’ll of course follow your advice with caution, I don’t want to get injured. With 3.5kg of weight i’m wondering if i actually ever need to go up in weight as with the weights thrown over my shoulder I find that as I adjust my back and shoulders I also adjust the tension on the penis.

What about kegaling while hanging?

I think I’ve started feeling some signs of fatigue, it’s early days yet but it feels much more lower down the penis than when hanging down?

Really the jelques are just to pump blood back into the penis adter a hang, nothing too much. The clamping aswell is like I said just once a day and it’s really just because if I feel horny then I feel I can use this chance to workout something and pump up the penis.

As for manual stretches I used to do them pulling down the way and it didn’t yeild any results except injury!!! I would put powder on to create more tension, pull by the bell end, it seemed that often I would end up bleeding from holding the penis too tight!!! I guess I just need to pull softly and at a similar angle to where I hang at.

Thanks for your help Dick Builder, I’m writing down my routine so I’ll let you know how it all goes over the coming weeks.

You’re welcome. After going back and rereading my posts and reflecting back on my routine I feel there’s something I need to clear up in reference to the manuals and fatigue.

While I often felt fatigue during the manuals it didn’t happen all the time and it shouldn’t be something that you strive for. In fact, it may have been a sign that I was overdoing it. Manuals are more of a high intensity/short duration exercise in comparison to hanging and experiencing fatigue while doing them is unusual. Instead, think of the manuals as a tool that replaces an ADS and helps you achieve fatigue during your next hanging session not just a replacement for a hanging set. I don’t want to leave you with the impression that unless you feel fatigue ‘while’ performing the manuals you aren’t accomplishing anything and then step up the intensity.

Good luck.